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Maroon like Randall Curries, 8/6, At least very good to excellent.

Pics ???

Searching past sales in general of Franklin D-10s, you should be able to sell it pretty quickly at 8K... could probably get over 10K if you find the right buyer and have it fully run through by a pro.

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Damir,

I disagree that for sale posts don't mean much. I think the for sale posts are a great indicator of a guitar's value as you can see a posted price and and idea of how long they took to sell to get a sense of how reasonable the price is. Likely a guitar sold for less, but it is a good indicator for the transactions I've been involved with. I honestly will look at a cached copy of an ad if the price has been removed post-sale because I think it's valuable to understand.


Saw a D-10 listed for 8K a while back on reverb and a U12 for 12.5K at a Vintage Instrument store in Nashville... (I'd expect retail to be a markup vs what a forum member would post). The range seemed pretty reasonable to me based on looking at for sale posts and just what I've seen elsewhere.

Would love to hear your opinion on the range of a franklin. I'm guessing you'd buy at 6K or less and sell at 12K or more.

-Jon

EDIT: Tone is hard to read over a forum. I'm not trying sound like a jerk here or be rude Damir with that last line. Its a legit comment on where I think you would perceive a "good value" for a Franklin in order to make a profit. Retail in my head is priced 2x cost to cover effort/expenses/risk....

I ask Bobbe Seymour once. What's an nice 72 PP worth. He replied. Depends. I ask, depends on what? His reply. Are you buying or selling?

Jon,
I agree with you that knowing the price of an instrument is useful as a ballpark figure and wish guys would not delete prices once an instrument is sold. By this statement, do you mean to copy the ad with the price if it is present:

"I honestly will look at a cached copy of an ad if the price has been removed post-sale .........."

Thanks,
Stevet

Other factors can't be overlooked. Supply/demand, name brand, an economic downturn, a health issue, a divorce, family emergency, a discontinued band gig.. so many pitfalls!

If the original price was NOT what the seller accepted, why keep it posted if not accurate?
Bobbe S. sure knew how to navigate it all.

Bob, I do hope you can get all you need from it, (which MAY involve trades, I failed to mention!) Sorry for the gloom/doom references, and by all means, let it be effortless for you, after all. Best Wishes, JZ

Jon Zimmerman wrote:If the original price was NOT what the seller accepted, why keep it posted if not accurate?

Because it at least tells you the upper limit?

Hey Steve

A lot of Web pages are cached by google,etc. Often can dig up a stored version of a page before it was edited to remove priceinfo.


Jon

Thanks for that information about being able to use GOOGLE. Or some other site to find the original posts. I did not know that. Very useful. Stevet

Hey Steve,

Yea if you google about cached sites there are lots of tools, you can google the sale page's address or throw it into a link like this. I picked a closed link with no info:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... p?t=321890

Lots of times info like photos are lost but it can be handy

Jon

Paddy Long wrote:Pics ???

Paddy,

Are you interested? I see you have a Zum which is what I would be looking for.

thx

bob

Don't mean to be blunt but it's worth what ever someone is willing to pay and how bad you want to sell it. That's what my dad always told me about anything.

Thanks a million, Jon. Again, I still find this helpful even if there are other factors involved in the pricing. I have no way of knowing what someone is willing to pay or how bad someone wants to sell it. Stevet

Henry has it right. The thing I don't understand is why folks feel a Franklin is worth so much more than other guitars. They are good guitars is true but I'd put any of my Emmons up against one any day. Is it because of the few numbers made?

Dave Diehl wrote:Henry has it right. The thing I don't understand is why folks feel a Franklin is worth so much more than other guitars. They are good guitars is true but I'd put any of my Emmons up against one any day. Is it because of the few numbers made?

So right Dave. If it's because of how many were made, then JCH's should be worth a fortune. It's all boils down to supply and demand I guess. There my be a small number of a product but if it's not in demand, it's worthless I guess. Franklins are in demand.

Have you guys ever played a Franklin? The pedal action almost defies physics even with the helper springs off!

bob

Henry Matthews wrote:Don't mean to be blunt but it's worth what ever someone is willing to pay and how bad you want to sell it. That's what my dad always told me about anything.

I bought a 90 dollar fiddle one time at DiFiore's in Cleveland. Mr. D was behind the counter when I bought it, and I asked him why my fiddle was only 90 bucks and the one in the glass case behind the counter was $750. He didn't answer, he just looked at me like I was an idiot, which I was.

I have owned and played several Franklins and they are unique. Well worth the money in my opinion.

It depends on what the market will bear. Search the past posts for the sales and ask accordingly. You can shoot for the moon with your asking price and someone might be willing to spend for it. On The whole, Franklins don't sell cheap and you'll probably get a good buck for it. Personally, I'm not a good salesman, but, I wouldn't sell something that's worthy of value for a cheap price. Reasonable yes, but, not cheap. I'd venture a guess at the price at nothing less than $7,500.00 as long as it plays well and looks good.

It depends on what the market will bear. Search the past posts for the sales and ask accordingly. You can shoot for the moon with your asking price and someone might be willing to spend for it. On The whole, Franklins don't sell cheap and you'll probably get a good buck for it. Personally, I'm not a good salesman, but, I wouldn't sell something that's worthy of value for a cheap price. Reasonable yes, but, not cheap. I'd venture a guess at the price at nothing less than $7,500.00 as long as it plays well and looks good.

Bob Hoffnar wrote:I have owned and played several Franklins and they are unique. Well worth the money in my opinion.

We are really discussing a moot point. What's unique to you may not be to me or the next guy. I've never really played a Franklin, just sat down at one once and it felt like any other all pull to me. Wish I could have taken it for a test drive, lol. Would I like to have one, sure would but wouldn't give the kind of money people ask for one but that's just me. What's unique to me is a really nice push pull.😊

Well, I can tell ya that Paul Sr. once told me that he gets calls from all over the world, looking for Franklins, and that he could sell them every day for $10K if he had them to sell.

I'm by no means expert on Franklin steels vs. other steels but I am experienced with critical and careful listening to no less than seven Franklins (not all mine) and dozens of Emmons' and other top brands. I think Franklin steel guitars are unrivaled when it comes to a great recording steel guitar. I have done more than 200 sessions with one of my Franklins and every single time, it does not fall short in any way. The steel track seems to lay in the song better than with other steels. The fact that every note is even is really important and ideal for recording. Other guitars do sound great live but a Franklin has an "edge" to the attack that is unique and excellent - to my ear. I have some premium Emmons steels but when I play out, I pack up and take a Franklin. Oh, and did I mention that they play like butter? I wouldn't part with mine for $10K Just my $.02 TC