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Is Emmons Guitar out of business?

Posted: 14 May 2005 2:29 am
by Rick Garrett
Someone told me Emmons was "officially" out of business. Wonder if its true? Anyone know for sure?

Rick

Posted: 14 May 2005 3:38 am
by Peter
<SMALL>Anyone know for sure?</SMALL>
Yes, Ron Lashley Jr is the only person to answer this question correctly.

Just phone him on:
Phone 336 227-2782 * FAX 336 222-1911
Email: ronlashley@emmons.com
PO Box 2044
1771 Webb Avenue
Burlington, NC 27216

<B>Please let us know what he said?
Thanks Rick! Image</B>
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Posted: 14 May 2005 5:40 am
by Ron !
I've mailed Ron a couple of days ago and have not received an answer yet.But somebody told me that Ron doesn't answer mails.
So I don't really know the situation about Emmons.I would like to know though.

Ron

Posted: 14 May 2005 6:02 am
by Peter
Ron, I am dealing with other builders via email and their response time averages about 14 days.
I don't see that as a problem.

Posted: 14 May 2005 6:29 am
by Charles Curtis
Their web-site seems to be ok.

Posted: 14 May 2005 6:32 am
by Erv Niehaus
I just got a call from Rebecca Lashley yesterday and they are ready to ship my second, new D-10 push/pull. It sure doesn't sound like they're out of business to me. How do these rumors get started? Image
Erv

Posted: 14 May 2005 7:25 am
by Rick Garrett
Just something I heard and was curious about.

Ron, I am dealing with other builders via email and their response time averages about 14 days.
I don't see that as a problem.

Hey Pete, I DO see that as a problem. I can guaranty you that if I did decide to buy a new guitar, of any kind, and it took the builder two weeks to get back with me it would be nearly two weeks too late.

In my business a reasonably quick return contact is simply a matter of professional courtesy. I don't see how a guitar builder should be any different.

Case in point, I emailed Carter with a question about one of their guitars on a Saturday. Monday morning I got an email from Anne with an answer. I didn't buy a new Carter this time and ended up getting a 66 Emmons BUT I'll remember how Carter runs their business the next time I'm looking for a new guitar.

Rick<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Rick Garrett on 14 May 2005 at 08:29 AM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 14 May 2005 9:19 am
by Ron !
Peter,

I mailed Bob Rains a couple of times and this gentlemen mailed me back the same day.
IMO if a business man would take 14 days to answer my mail he has lost the deal.
There are others that are quicker then that.

Erv.
I would like to know too who is starting this.

Ron

Posted: 14 May 2005 10:30 am
by Peter
I would like to know who is going to end this.
One phone call to Emmons is sufficient. Image<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Peter on 14 May 2005 at 11:30 AM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 14 May 2005 11:20 am
by Ray Montee
14 days?

I ordered a dozen custom-sets of Gibson guitar strings last August; Just last month I rec'd a partially complete order with some wrong strings included.

Customer service seems to elude steel guitar players. $136.00 for strings....isn't a small order for strings, in my opinion and yet I guess I'm supposed to install some custom strings intermingled with off the shelf strings...........what a joke!

Posted: 14 May 2005 6:21 pm
by b0b
i don't have a horse in this race, but I know from experience that the Emmons Guitar Company has always been slow to respond to customers. It was true when I bought mine in 1978 and it's true today.

I expect that if and when they go out of business, there will be a formal announcement. The fact that their web site is still up is good enough for me.

Unfounded rumors of their demise have been posted several times over the past few years. Such rumors are bad for business, and serve no useful purpose in my opinion.

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Posted: 14 May 2005 6:44 pm
by Rick Garrett
b0b, thanks for your email. I probably shouldn't have taken your post personally. I try very hard to be as considerate and respectful to everyone as is humanly possible. If you have any doubts whatsoever about this post causing problems you have my blessing to slam it closed and I won't say one word about it. I do apologize to you for causing you any trouble at all in your house. Thanks

Rick

Posted: 14 May 2005 8:35 pm
by Charles Dempsey
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Posted: 15 May 2005 2:07 am
by Eric West
Well hell, why not? Sho~Bud is still going strong...

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EJL

Posted: 15 May 2005 4:51 am
by David L. Donald
I gotta say:

If there is a rumor of a company closing,
and you don't ask here,
then the rumor just keeps going.

If you DO ask here, the rumor gets scotched,
or confirmed for all to see.

That stops the rumor faster than other ways IMHO.
Replaced with FACT.

Posted: 15 May 2005 4:57 am
by Rick Garrett
The reason I started this thread is that I recently made a deal to buy an Emmons S10. Beautiful black 66 bolt on in great shape and I know eventually it'll need parts. Then I heard about the possibility of Emmons closing shop and I got a little concerned that I might not be able to get new parts if I ever need them. So I asked the question here in hopes of finding the truth. Sure didn't mean to step on any toes or upset anybodys apple cart. Just an honest question.

Rick
P.S. It was suggested that I simply call Emmons and ask the question of them. I don't know those folks at all and am not comfortable at all with calling them to ask that question.

Posted: 15 May 2005 6:24 am
by Erv Niehaus
I have had an excellent business relationship with the Lashleys over the years. I have ordered and received new guitars, many parts and lever kits and just recently a new D-10 push/pull guitar.
I'll have to admit that sometimes they are rather hard to get ahold of and slow to respond, but I have my idiosyncrasies too! Rebecca is very easy to visit with and if you don't get a chance to talk to her, her mom, Bobby, is a sweatheart of a gal too! You don't get a chance to talk to Ron very often. After all, he's busy cranking out those wonderful EMMONS GUITARS!
Erv Image

Posted: 15 May 2005 7:45 am
by Marty Pollard
yawn...

Posted: 15 May 2005 9:00 am
by Farris Currie
RICK my Brother,you did nothing wrong!!Plain simple question!we all deserve to know if something is going on.and we have the right to know if parts will be available in the future for us.Not right to get jumped on about asking! i;m with you all the way my,i want to know toooooooo.
farris

Posted: 15 May 2005 9:41 am
by Bobby Lee
<SMALL>Beautiful black 66 bolt on in great shape and I know eventually it'll need parts.</SMALL>
Does Emmons still make and sell parts for 39-year-old guitars? There aren't many manufacturers in any industry that are willing to do that.

Posted: 15 May 2005 9:57 am
by Cor Muizer Jr
your absolutly right b0b.
i think they don't


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Posted: 15 May 2005 10:51 am
by Ron !
<SMALL>Does Emmons still make and sell parts for 39-year-old guitars</SMALL>
Well they are building Push Pull steels again so I guess they will have parts for sale for these steel guitars.
I haven't seen one of these new P/P's but I think that the parts they are using now will have the same measurements as the older parts.
Changing that would be unwise.For other parts such as kneelevers and necks and body's Emmons always had a special pricelist which is available on the Emmons website.

Ron

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Posted: 15 May 2005 10:55 am
by Cor Muizer Jr
nope they only use there parts for themselves.



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Posted: 15 May 2005 11:04 am
by Ron !
Take a look for your self. http://emmonsguitar.net/replacementparts6.htm http://emmonsguitar.net/replacementparts5.htm
I don't think my eyes play tricks on me.
It says clearly that a Bellcrank for D10 P/P is $12.50.
And a Crossbar is $38.00

Ron

Posted: 15 May 2005 11:07 am
by Rick Garrett
Well since they are making push pulls again, the parts should be pretty much the same I guess. Maybe not who knows. Wont matter much if they're on the way out.

Rick