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The third song on Tim McGraw's latest CD has an intro by Paul Franklin that is just unbelievable. Has anyone heard it?? How does he do that!??

very well!!!

What's the name of the song?<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 12 May 2001 at 11:17 AM.]</p></FONT>

Jeff,

The name of the song is You Get Used To Somebody. I don't particularly care for the song... but the intro is awesome.

Thanks Mike, I'll have to pick up the CD this weekend. BTW, hope to hear you in Bolivar in June.

I'm not a McGraw fan but I will listen to a good Franklin turn around on anyone's record.
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by b0b on 13 May 2001 at 10:10 AM.]</p></FONT>

Like I always said, the singer is just there to lead up to the steel part, and try not to be too irritating along the way. Of course there are a few exceptions. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Fred Murphy on 12 May 2001 at 08:12 PM.]</p></FONT>

c'mon guys.. let's be nice

click here for a mp3 sample of the intro only.


Mike

Thanks for the MP3 intro file. I didn't hear much steel, just a couple of chords - mostly keyboard?????

I believe you're right, Jack. That does sound like a keyboard in there too.

I don't have my steel out, but it sounds to me like he has the A,B, pedals engaged, and then lets off the B pedal and then somehow drops the 6th string to the note you normally get on the 8th string. Then it goes back to the 6th string note with the B pedal, lets off the A and B pedals, and drops to the 8th string note again. Someone posted recented that PF had added a TWO full-tone pull to his pedal repertoire. I guess this is it.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 13 May 2001 at 08:59 AM.]</p></FONT>

To me it sounds like he ends this intro with the famous (4th) PF pedal. Paul, am I right? JJ

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He's lowering a Bb to an F while sustaining the D note on top... that's more than 2 full steps. Maybe a bar slant also?? Paul?????

mike, if add up releasing B pedal along with lowering the double wholestep lower, you get a 2 and 1/2 step lower.

I can't get the MP3 to work.But I do know Paul lowers his 6th string ( G# to E). Hope this helps>----------bb

Jon Light sent me an email explaining how it's possible at the 11th fret. Paul's LKV raises his 6th string G# to B. Pick strings 2 and 6:

LKV --> p4 --> LKV --> LKV(half)? --> p4

That 4th note (A) is the big trick here. Releasing the vertical to that position is superhuman, IMHO. Maybe he slides back to the 10th fret and raises his second string to get that note. I don't hear no slide in there, though.

Nope. Can't see it. The initial notes are classic A,B stuff. If he isn't dropping two whole-tones, then I guess he's just a magician. Come to think of it, he's a magician anyway.

Using the published Franklin setup, this will yield the correct notes.
Feasible? Yes. Plausible, I dunno.

----the LL on 5th and 6th string is the 'Franklin' pedal,
----the V is a 3 half-step raise,
----L on 2nd string is a one half-step lower

Universal players, you can substitute he pedal that raises 5&6 a whole step and slant the bar.


When all is said and done, most important is-- that's some pretty playing.


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1-----------------------|--------------|--------------------|
2---~~11~~~~11~~~~~11---|---10L~~~6----|--------------------|
3-----------------------|--------------|--------------------|
4-----------------------|--------------|----6~~~~6~~~~6~~~--|
5-----------------------|--------------|----6A---6----6LL---|
6---~~11V~~~11LL~~~11V--|---10V~~~6V---|--------------------|
7-----------------------|--------------|--------------------|
8-----------------------|--------------|--------------------|
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It is beautiful, that's for sure. He makes that one long note sound so sad.

Flame suit ready.

I'm gonna suggest the unpopular possibility and probably risk forumicide... I think it's two tracks. The first phrase has that one note dropping a perfect fourth (that's 5 half steps folks! and it sounds like the bar to me) while the rest of it, the upper first and the third vibrato there nicely an octave higher. Now there are two suspicious brief pauses in the vibrato only during the downward and upward modulation between the low root note and the perfect fourth beneath it that lead me to believe that it could possibly have been played at one go. But I'm listening on my crappy computer speakers and it hits my ears like two parts.

Regardless, it's an elegant and beautiful piece of composition. And if it's not two tracks it's just plain amazing.

Cheers

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Well if Mr. Boggs knows for sure(somehow)that Paul is lowering that G# note to E; then that's how he is doing it for sure. First chord is a Bb pedals a and b down on 13th fret; then releasing the B pedal and hitting that magical change that is lowering it two whole tones.
By the copedant listed above and if Paul recorded with that exact copedant; then the same notes can be had by the way Mr. Light suggest.
But I hear Paul even squeezing in the "a" pedal just a bit on that first Bb chord on 13th fret; so I would be inclined to believe he is using the magical change>"wow that's a big drop"
Also after reading this entire thread just after I started writing this; I noticed Jeff Lampert splashed in with his ear. I'll tell ya; I haven't met a better ear than that Jeff Lampert. He hears things I only wish I could hear; and now after reading his post; I'm for sure Paul did it the way Jeff said.
Ricky

I still can't hear the song.But Paul was using the (G# to E) change last year.He used it on the last AJ CD.A Franklin maybe the only PSG that will make this change.I do know you can't do it on a Emmons or Derby unless you trick it out.--------bb

I just remembered,I put this change on a Carter,but sold it the next day.The new owner didn't want it so I took it off.Didn't get a chance to really test it out.BTW we discussed this change last Dec. or Jan.It started on Bar Chatter I think.Something about Alan Jackson's new CD.--------------bb<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Bobby Boggs on 14 May 2001 at 09:47 PM.]</p></FONT>

As usual, Mr.Boggs is right. My left vertical lever now lowers the 6th string G# to E. I couldn't access Mike's sound file with my system and don't remember what I played on that record. We recorded that CD last year.
Glad you like it. The new Strait record when it comes out in a few months from now will have a solo utilizing this change. I used it in a very complex way on a recut of Haggard's "Life is Grand". That pedal really twists the heart strings. It's my favorite change at the moment.
Paul

I'm glad to know I'm right,also glad to know that I'm not the only one who can not access MP3's.Now I have something in common with Paul.But (ya'll) lose the Mr. Boggs thing.Ya making me feel 40 years old. ----------bb