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Topic: TT Pick up noise ? |
Richard Tipple
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2004 8:28 am |
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I have a TT on my 74 Emmons S-10. I adjusted it to a 3 quarter clearance from the strings.
On the bass end ,strings 8,9,10, any time I palm block, I get a (Whomping) sound from the PU,,,as if one would take your hand and pat the PU. I cant adjust the PU any lower as the adjustment is as low as it will go from the strings.
So is the PU too hot for the Emmons? I believe it was wound to 10.5 K and was wound for my Carter but I liked my E66 on the Carter better.
The Orig. single coil on my Emmons is a little too noisy for recording so I thouhgt I would try the TT.
And heres a really stupid question  is there a difference in the pole windings on a PU,,,in other words,,can a PU be installed back wards??
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 5 Apr 2004 9:53 am
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The problem is caused by your right hand's palm "beating" the lower strings when you palm-block. The alternatives are...
a.) Refine your technique (so you're not "beating" the strings so hard)
b.) Use another method (pick-blocking instead of palm-blocking
c.) Turn down the bass so the low frequency noise created isn't as objectionable |
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Richard Tipple
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2004 12:50 pm
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Thanks Donny
I found the problem though,,after removing the PU,,I found a small spacer under the PU mounting plate that would not let me lower the PU. Somewhere down the line ,it got trapped under there.
I can now lower the PU enough to cure the problem  |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 5 Apr 2004 1:05 pm
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| Holey moley Richard! You said you already had it the thickness of 3 quarters below the strings (about 3/16"). I'd consider any more than that less than optimum (possibly loosing some signal). But.....it works for straight guitars. So I guess the bottom line is, "if it works, it works!" [This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 05 April 2004 at 02:06 PM.] |
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Richard Tipple
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2004 2:25 pm
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Yea Donny,,I couldnt believe it myself,,Ive got this baby down about 1/4" under the strings, and it sounds great now
I wonder if all TT pick ups are this hybrid.
The E66 works about 2 quarters under,,so figure that out,,,,anyway thanks buddy |
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Dave Ristrim
From:
Whites Creek, TN
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Posted 6 Apr 2004 5:52 am
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I have found some of the single coil pickups to be microphonic. I still love their tone but they can pick up the pedal noise and your breathing if your not careful.
Dave |
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Joe Alterio
From:
Irvington, Indiana
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Posted 10 Jan 2005 12:24 pm
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I know this is an older topic, but I am experiencing the same thing.....TT pickups and a "whump" noise every time I palm block, no matter how light I do it. Obviously, it is noticeable when the amp is cranked and there is considerable palm blocking on a particular song.
I'm just getting used to training myself to palm block, so I can't say for sure if this is a:
1) guitar issue
2) pickup issue
3) technique issue
4) all of the above
5) 1 & 3
5) 2 & 3
6) 1 & 2
7) none of the above
I have my TT pickups set at normal height, if not a bit lower (1/8" - 3/16" I believe).
Thoughts???? Is the "whump" noise just...typical?
Joe |
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Michael Johnstone
From:
Sylmar,Ca. USA
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Posted 10 Jan 2005 2:42 pm
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| Besides technique it could be an EQ problem. I seem to see a lot of guys post their EQ settings who have their bass control set way high.On all my Peaveys and also my Fender Steel King I can't get it (and wouldn't want it)any higher than about straight up 12:00 without the bottom end of my steel sound just woofing out and overwhelming the amp,the room and the whole band. BTW I play an Excel with a 17.5 TT. I could see having too much bass EQ causing all kinds of unwanted mechanical sounds and technique issues. -MJ- |
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Dave Grafe
From:
Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 10 Jan 2005 10:34 pm
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| I have found some of the single coil pickups to be microphonic. I still love their tone but they can pick up the pedal noise and your breathing if your not careful |
This is very true of my late 70's ShoBud, pedal noise, AC line hum and yes, palm noise as well. I EQ out what I can with a notch fileter on my parametric, I turn up the lowest filter, narrow the range and sweep the frequency setting to center on the "whump" and then ditch it.
As for pickup spacing, I have seen many posts recommending two-to-three quarters' width between the strings and P/U but have found that the best tone, balance and sustain on my '78 Pro I happens with the P/U lowered to about 3/8" below the strings. I have tried to raise it several times over the years to increase the signal-to-noise ratio but if it gets any closer the tone just dies and I put it back where it worked really good to start with.
I suppose if it ain't broke, we can fix that, too![This message was edited by Dave Grafe on 10 January 2005 at 10:38 PM.] |
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