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Skip Mertz

 

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N.C. (deceased)
Post  Posted 2 Jan 2005 4:14 pm    
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I'm haveing a timing problem with getting my 1st string to reach a G before my 6th string starts to lower. Is there a timing formula to use on this and other strings that do counterpoint on an Emmons LG II? thanks Skip
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Mark van Allen


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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
Post  Posted 2 Jan 2005 9:48 pm    
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Hi,Skip, It sounds like you're trying to make a half stop feel on your first string from the pressure of the 6th string lower. You might need to tinker some with that. On my LGII, I have the RKL pulling four strings, I'll list them with the changer holes first and the bellcrank holes second, all counting upward (away from the body/neck while it's on the workbench).

    String 1 F#-G# 2-10
    String 2 D#-E 2-5
    String 6 G#-F# 5-6 (split with B pedal to G)
    String 4 A-Bb 1-4 (C6)

I haven't got a half-stop feel on the 1st string, but they all pull smoothly and right to pitch, hope this helps.

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Ricky Davis


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Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2005 10:17 am    
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Yeah Skip for your 6th string to lower after the half tone raise on the 1st string. You'll want that 6th string to pull from a quicker distance; hence having to back out the nylon tuner a bit more and then it will hit on the half tone. So either one more hole further away from the body on the bell crank or one more hole further from the axle on the finger.
Ricky
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Skip Mertz

 

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N.C. (deceased)
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2005 3:01 pm    
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Thanks Mark and Ricky
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John Steele (deceased)

 

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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2005 6:47 pm    
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For what it's worth, as I'm not a p/p mechanic;
Mike Cass set up my guitar with both the 6th string whole tone lower and the first string whole tone raise with half stop on one knee lever. (RKL) He mentioned to me that the half stop the way he set it up was not adjustable, but he felt confident that he'd "nailed it" so it ended up in the right place. And, so he did. I'm not sure how he did it, but I know I've never had to adjust it, and I use it alot. Maybe he'd be a good guy to ask.
Sorry I can't be more specific, but it sounded to me like this was a problem p/p mechanics were confronted with regularly, and that Mike had developed the best of several ways to deal with it. This is not a shameless Mike plug, I just think he's good, that's all
-John
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Jim Smith


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Midlothian, TX, USA
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2005 8:21 pm    
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John, Skip's guitar is a LeGrande II, not a push-pull.
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John Steele (deceased)

 

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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2005 9:29 pm    
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tsk, tsk...

oops, did I say that out loud ?

Oops, sorry guys.
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