Is everyone still using a Delay?

Greg Johnson · Post by **Greg Johnson** » 18 Sep 2016 7:08 am

I have been thinking about a new delay lately, and was curious how many are still using one? I was going to get a Carbon Copy what's your thoughts.

David Nugent · Post by **David Nugent** » 18 Sep 2016 7:54 am

I have been using the recently (re)introduced Boss 'Wazacraft' DM2 reissue delay and so far am very pleased with the results. Far superior to the DD3 IMO.

Robert Parent · Post by **Robert Parent** » 18 Sep 2016 8:30 am

Guess you would have to count me as not using one. Never thought it was something that was needed so have not owned one. Rather strange as I have owned most effects toys at one time or another.

Robert

Jerry Overstreet · Post by **Jerry Overstreet** » 18 Sep 2016 9:19 am

Yes, wouldn't be without one. I'm still using one of the old AD80 Ibanez analog delay pedals for both steel and guitars. I keep patching it up and modifying 18v power supplies to keep it running.

Some like the Boss digital delays like the DD3 or the combo delay/reverb pedals like the RV3. Never used the Carbon Copy, but hear good things about it. I believe it is also an analog pedal.

For me, it's the old 70's, 80's analog stuff like the AD80, Boss DM-2 or the re-issue Maxon 999 delays. More pricey, but worth it in my view.

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 18 Sep 2016 9:58 am

I must be nobody. That standard one repeat at somewhere around 200ms that so many people like is not a good thing. I've tried to like it. Repeatedly. I put my reverb of 2 or 3, and the delay on Craigslist.
Perhaps there are artistic settings and uses for it, but it rarely gets set and used that way.
Even in Bobbe's youtube video calling it the most important effect, when I hear it, every single time I think "for the love of God, why? Isn't there enough ugly in the world?"
When I've played gigs where the house sound man "gives" me such a treatment, I spend most of the night with my hands in my lap, changing my rÃ´le to harmony singer.

The preceding carries these qualifications: I know I'm a goofball, and these are the opinions and artistic judgments of an admitted and confessednfessed goofballfball.

Paul Sutherland · Post by **Paul Sutherland** » 18 Sep 2016 10:32 am

No delay for me.

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 18 Sep 2016 10:37 am

I use a slight amount of delay and reverb with a POD X3.

Ronald Sikes · Post by **Ronald Sikes** » 18 Sep 2016 11:16 am

Wampler Faux Analog Delay into my NV112 with the Mod reverb tank. Sounds great.
With my Stereo Steel I use the TC M one XL. Delay and Reverb.

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 18 Sep 2016 1:22 pm

I use delay quite a bit. I love my carbon copy but finally found a great analog delay with a tap tempo that I like. It's a bellwether delay by walrus audio.

You can't go wrong with a carbon copy though. Buy one used and see if it works for you. If you don't like it they sell super fast.

Bill Moran · Post by **Bill Moran** » 18 Sep 2016 1:29 pm

I have a Wampler but sense I bought a Wet Reverb I seldom hook it up.

John Swain · Post by **John Swain** » 18 Sep 2016 1:50 pm

I've stop using delay, just a little amp reverb. I think it really muddies the notes.IMHO.

Karen Sarkisian · Post by **Karen Sarkisian** » 18 Sep 2016 2:16 pm

Wampler Faux analog echo is my favorite for pedal steel. no tap tempo tho..

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 18 Sep 2016 3:09 pm

I have a couple of delay pedals, but rarely use them. I also have delay in my main amp, but only use it for exaggerated slap-back sounds on one or two special songs.

Bryan Daste · Post by **Bryan Daste** » 18 Sep 2016 3:31 pm

Delay is a big part of my sound. I love my Strymon El Capistan - here's a podcast episode with an audio demo (using pedal steel) - https://pedalsteelpodcast.wordpress.com ... -capistan/

Ben Morine · Post by **Ben Morine** » 18 Sep 2016 4:06 pm

I don't use any delay at all. The reverb tank in the old SF twin reverb is enough. Such an awesome sound IMHO.

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 18 Sep 2016 4:11 pm

I KNEW you'd be along, Bryan.
But you don't use it the way most folks do. You actually do cool things with it.

Paddy Long · Post by **Paddy Long** » 18 Sep 2016 4:45 pm

That Franklin guy is quite partial to a little delay - do you think he might meet with a little success :-}

Jerry Overstreet · Post by **Jerry Overstreet** » 18 Sep 2016 5:04 pm

https://youtu.be/ZhbtOavlIgg Yeah, so was this guy, THE Master...known to be fond of the DD3 as well as other devices. I don't know if it's on this clip or not, but maybe.

I'd love to hear the effects haters' clips of anything near this sweet. Anything can be made to sound bad if you try hard enough.

Joseph Napolitano · Post by **Joseph Napolitano** » 18 Sep 2016 5:49 pm

Carbon copy for me. Just a little. Some rooms are just really dry . Like Bob said , if you don't like it , they sell easily, because they're so good.

Paul Sutherland · Post by **Paul Sutherland** » 18 Sep 2016 6:57 pm

What sounds good in a bedroom or studio, with a low ceiling and carpet and curtains to deaden the sound, often does not sound so good in a large dance hall with all hard surfaces and a high ceiling to bounce the sound around. Also, I find that on most of the medium to bigger jobs your amp is going to be mic'd, and then you hear a fair amount of delay from the steel coming through the mains and monitors and bouncing back. I don't really know what the audience hears, but I find the spring reverb in my Milkman or Twin, or a Wet Reverb pedal with another rig, is all I need to sound good on stage. Do I sound like Buddy Emmons or Paul Franklin? Of course not.

PS: I do use an organ pedal with a compressor, and an overdrive pedal for certain songs, so I am not an "effects hater."

John Booth · Post by **John Booth** » 18 Sep 2016 7:29 pm

Lane Gray wrote: The preceding carries these qualifications: I know I'm a goofball, and these are the opinions and artistic judgments of an admitted and confessed goofball.

Yep, yer a little, shall we say, "Different"? But you're one of my favorite goofballs on this forum Buddy

Jb

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 19 Sep 2016 1:58 am

I've stopped using my effects processor, which is a PRO FEX, but not for the same reasons as everyone else. I just don't want to carry any more gear !

On the gigs it's just amp reverb,but when I track, yes, I use delay.

Brett Lanier · Post by **Brett Lanier** » 19 Sep 2016 6:06 am

A lot of just reverb for me but I do enjoy playing with delays and other fx as well.
https://soundcloud.com/brettlanier/bl1 (100% pedal steel)

Larry Behm · Post by **Larry Behm** » 19 Sep 2016 7:34 am

I set my Boss VF1 to about 420 with 1 slap back at about 15%, it gives my sound the illusion of wetness, thus I can cut back on the amount of reverb and still not appear to be dry.

Dick Wood · Post by **Dick Wood** » 19 Sep 2016 7:35 am

I used one for many years. For the last year,I used only reverb and didn't miss the delay at all. I just recently started using it again and I guess I can say that it really doesn't matter one way or the other because I usually set it to the point that you can just barely hear it.