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My Dekely Copedent

Posted: 22 Aug 2016 11:53 am
by Ronald OQuin
My copedent is like Emmons E9 except for the right levers . Gets confusing for a beginner tuning with no charts to match
String 1. RKL F# to G#
2. """. Eb to F - F#
6. """. G# to F#

String 2. RKR. Eb to D
9. """. D to C#
Would be great to change it to Full Emmons setup or standard E9

Posted: 22 Aug 2016 12:18 pm
by Ian Rae
If your left knee levers are raising and lowering your Es, then that is an Emmons setup. The RKL lower to F# is a change that he introduced; what it does to strings 1&2 is popular with many players (with the 2nd string raising to E). Your RKR is quite traditional.

So what you already have is a guitar that most steelers could sit down at and play without having to think. It is already standard as far as there is a standard! Hope that encourages you, Ronald :)

Posted: 22 Aug 2016 4:00 pm
by Ronald OQuin
Thank you Ian Rae

Posted: 25 Aug 2016 8:18 pm
by Pat Chong
And your Dekley choice isn't bad, either. Which model and setup do you have? (I am a fan of Dekleys.)

..........Pat

Posted: 25 Aug 2016 9:47 pm
by Lane Gray
The only change I'd make would be to take 2 to C# with a half-stop at D.

My personal preference is to have the RKL drop 6 and raise 1 to G, and the 1st and 2nd string raise to G# and E on an extra pedal. But Ian is right, that change often shows up on modern standard guitars.

Good guitar.

PS: As long as a copedent is close to typical, I STRONGLY advocate newbies learning to play what you have, only making a change when you can envision several personal uses for the new changes, and understand the vocabulary you're giving up.
Time spent under the guitar is time better spent on top of it.

Posted: 26 Aug 2016 10:32 am
by James Wolf
I agree with Lane. I tried to tinker with my Dekley when I first got it and bit off way more than I could chew. I've worked on a few different guitars and the Dekley was by far the most difficult all pull I've ever messed with. It is so easy to strip the tiny set screws that everything underneath is attached with if you aren't deliberate with them. Play it as it is. Dekley is an excellent guitar and I enjoy mine very much(I was going to sell it when I got my Fessenden but decided to keep it)

Happy Steelin!

Posted: 26 Aug 2016 11:05 am
by b0b
I think your RKL is mistuned on the 2nd string. It should raise to E, not F. Back off the tuning nut to get it right.

Other than that, it is standard. Some people have a half stop on the 2nd string lower, but the D is the more useful note musically. I wouldn't change it until you really feel the need for the C#.

Posted: 26 Aug 2016 11:15 am
by Lane Gray
Depending on your vocabulary of choice. I use the C# more than the D, B0b.
I missed the F: I read it as E. Never heard of taking 2 to F#.