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Topic: 8 string C6 rhythm playing |
John Poston
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Albuquerque, NM, USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2004 1:14 pm |
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One of my guitars is a Fender 400 with 6 pedals and a homemade knee that can do 1 pull. I might try it out in a situation where I would be the only rhythm player.
I'm wondering if anyone has good ideas for copedant changes to faciliate some things like that?
Right now it's actually in an A6 tuning:
1 2 3 4 5 6 K
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E | D# F
C# | B D
A | G# G# B
F# | G#
E | D#
C# | C
A | A#
F# |
1 and 2 are the old school country moves.
3-5 are P5-P7, knee is P8, 6 is what it is 
One idea I had was to lower the bottom F# to E with the 2nd or 6th pedal to do some alternating bass stuff in the open position. Any other cool ideas?
Thanks as always for the great input and dialog.
-Bud
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2004 3:51 pm
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p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 p6 k
E Eb F
C D B
A B B
G F#
E F Eb
C C#
A B
F D E |
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John Poston
From:
Albuquerque, NM, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2004 7:52 am
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Thanks Bobby!
I really like your idea for p3. Get some nice bass stuff on the 7th. The downside is the 400 is single raise/lower changer.  I guess that's one of the reasons we always steer people away from them. Maybe I'd keep that and then raise F to G on p6 instead.
I've heard a lot of people lowering the top E to get the easy minor. I don't know that I've come across raising the other E to F with that. Some sort of an F13? This is intriguing. I'm curious about uses of this with the other pedals.
Anyway, thanks again.
-Bud |
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Pete Burak
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Portland, OR USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2004 8:02 am
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I have a Fender 400 with 4 pedals which I switch between E9th and B6th tunings.
I like b0b's reccomendation as it is basically a C6th neck and would provide you with a ton of big fatties, which would sound especially exceptional on that guitar in a swing band situation!
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basilh
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United Kingdom
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Posted 28 Sep 2004 1:53 pm
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Try this...
p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 p6 k
E F# Eb F#
C# D# C
A B
G G# F#
E Eb
C# C
A B
G G# F#
This Gives A7,A6,E6,C6,AMAJ7,CMAJ7,E6/9MAJ7,C7,A9,D9,A13,A13b5,Edim,D9AUG,
and Many more. Experiment !
Look here for more info www.waikiki-islanders.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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[This message was edited by basilh on 28 September 2004 at 03:03 PM.] [This message was edited by basilh on 29 September 2004 at 01:35 PM.] |
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John Poston
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Albuquerque, NM, USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2004 9:58 am
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Thanks Basil. Thankfully the 400 has the easist copedant to change - I'll print this out and play around a little this weekend. p3 looks fun. Also I think you wanted both Gs to F# on p5 - a nice quick change from A7 to A6. You should call this tuning the 'famous waikiki A7' or something. Mahalo!
Pete - do you leave off the chromatic strings for E9? Some people get rid of 2 and 9 instead. Do you have a C pedal or a E - F raise? I'm always curious about what compromises people decide to make when dealing with limitations.
Thanks again, everyone.
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Pete Burak
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Portland, OR USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2004 10:08 am
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I have my strings set up like this:
1-G#, 2-F#, 3-E, 4-B, 5-G# 6-F# 7-E, 8-B.
P1- E's to F
P2- B's to C#
P3- G#'s to A
P4- E's to Eb
So with A+B, I have a nice A6th.
With E's lowered, I have a nice B6th.
The standard E9th stuff is there, although it would be nice to have a 2x2 instead of 4x0!
I end up playing with 2 feet working the pedals quite often.
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basilh
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United Kingdom
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Posted 29 Sep 2004 12:47 pm
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You were right about the G#..John...
pedal 2 = A9
1+2 = E6
1+2+3 = E69(maj7)
pedal 4 = C6,
Pedal 5 = A6,
pedal 4+5 =D9
try this, pedal 1+2 at the third fret (G6) then Pedal 2+3 at the 4th fret (Omit top string)(G7 with all sorts of added bits!!)
then pedal 1 at the 3rd fret (Cmaj7) resolving to C6 with pedal 5.
that pedal 2+3 chord is also a 9b5
at the 3rd fret =C9b5 |(include the first string and it's a 13b5
Baz
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basilh
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basilh
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John Poston
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Albuquerque, NM, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2004 1:18 pm
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Wow Basil, now you're just showing off!
 just kidding.
The recordings, especially that first one are beautiful.
I really appreciate all the free input and advice from you and everyone. |
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basilh
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United Kingdom
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Ron !
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Posted 30 Sep 2004 11:27 pm
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Basil
Track number 09 is the one i usally play on a 6 string National.And i can get better result playing this one without pedals.
I use a Rudi Wairata tuning on this melody.
D B A F# D A.
It can give some nice licks and with this tuning you can play that song really fast if you want.
Ron
Nikaro SD10 4x6 |
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basilh
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