Lighter Tone Bar
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- Michael James
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Lighter Tone Bar
I have been using a John Pearse (7/8")X(3 1/4") 8.1oz stainless steel tone bar. I really like the bar but it's bit to heavy for my playing style.
I could go with a bit shorter bar but what I really need is for it to be and as light as possible. Any suggestions?
I could go with a bit shorter bar but what I really need is for it to be and as light as possible. Any suggestions?
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You might check out Michael Hillman's powder coated bars. I don't have one, but lots of folks on here seem to love em.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... ht=hillman
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- Stefan Robertson
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I'll be honest man.
I tried the lighter bars and heavy bars.
Ended up going for a Shubb SP1 but I wish it were a bit heavier.
Heavy bars have such a clean crisp tone. If that is what you're after use them. Also intonating your notes during bar slants it has a cleaner sound.
I prefer a slightly more mellow tone but If I had the best of both worlds I would get a Shubb SP1 shape with the same length heft/weight as a bullet bar.
I tried the lighter bars and heavy bars.
Ended up going for a Shubb SP1 but I wish it were a bit heavier.
Heavy bars have such a clean crisp tone. If that is what you're after use them. Also intonating your notes during bar slants it has a cleaner sound.
I prefer a slightly more mellow tone but If I had the best of both worlds I would get a Shubb SP1 shape with the same length heft/weight as a bullet bar.
Stefan
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We make hand-blown crystal glass bullet tone-bars ~ weight-wise they come in between steel & ceramic (around 3 ounces) and lengths can be finished to suit any preference.
www.diamondbottlenecks.com/CrystalToneBars.html
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www.diamondbottlenecks.com/CrystalToneBars.html
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Rocky Mountain Slides
Rocky Mountain Slides...worth checking...very happy with mine..
http://www.rockymountainslides.com/chap ... e-bar.html
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- Jouni Karvonen
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They made my favorite tricone bar.Ian McWee wrote:We make hand-blown crystal glass bullet tone-bars ~ weight-wise they come in between steel & ceramic (around 3 ounces) and lengths can be finished to suit any preference.
www.diamondbottlenecks.com/CrystalToneBars.html
Ian. (Diamond Bottlenecks)
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In addition to Diamond Bottleneck's crystal bars, which are excellent, there is also Paloma Stone Slides. These are also excellent, light-weight with a great feel in the hand and pretty much you don't worry about heat and humidity when you play with one.
Surprisingly good sustain considering the light weight.
http://stoneslides.com/products
Surprisingly good sustain considering the light weight.
http://stoneslides.com/products
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Another +1 for Paloma Stone... they're cheap, buy more than one, since they do break if you drop them. I have a buddy that's over 80, he says the bar lets him keep playing, otherwise he'd have to give it up. The lightest bar you can get that actually works.
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i have 4 or 5 glass (Pyrex?) bars of different shapes/sizes, one of which i use a lot. every gig, at least.
my favorite one broke, sadly.
the ones i've liked best are really small, barely covering all 6 strings.
they're really light, you barely feel them.
they aren't really a substitute for a normal bar, though.
very limited sustain on the lower strings. still plenty of sustain on the skinny ones, however.
anyways, that's what i Ike about them. it makes them great for playing anything remotely funky, or with gain.
i keep wanting to get around to trying on of the lead filled ones, just hasn't happened yet.
in any case, the glass bars are definitely worth checking out, just accept them for what they are.
j
my favorite one broke, sadly.
the ones i've liked best are really small, barely covering all 6 strings.
they're really light, you barely feel them.
they aren't really a substitute for a normal bar, though.
very limited sustain on the lower strings. still plenty of sustain on the skinny ones, however.
anyways, that's what i Ike about them. it makes them great for playing anything remotely funky, or with gain.
i keep wanting to get around to trying on of the lead filled ones, just hasn't happened yet.
in any case, the glass bars are definitely worth checking out, just accept them for what they are.
j
Hi All!
We're proud to announce our solid crystal glass bars will be available very soon from Dawn at Jackson Steel Guitars, Nashville TN. (our only stockist in the U.S carrying our crystal glass bars).
Over here at D.B's we've experimented with these lead-filled glass bars ~ unfortunately we found that due to the very thin glass walls of the outer casing (around 2mm - 3mm) there's really no durability as a serious 'working tool' ~ i've seen one topple over onto a table-top & shatter into a hundred pieces ~ way too fragile to offer as a professional piece of kit!
In theory, a lead-filled glass bar will offer the sweetest tone of any bar material ~ but if you do purchase one, be prepared to treat one like eggs!!
Slide On!
Ian (Diamond Bottlenecks).
We're proud to announce our solid crystal glass bars will be available very soon from Dawn at Jackson Steel Guitars, Nashville TN. (our only stockist in the U.S carrying our crystal glass bars).
Over here at D.B's we've experimented with these lead-filled glass bars ~ unfortunately we found that due to the very thin glass walls of the outer casing (around 2mm - 3mm) there's really no durability as a serious 'working tool' ~ i've seen one topple over onto a table-top & shatter into a hundred pieces ~ way too fragile to offer as a professional piece of kit!
In theory, a lead-filled glass bar will offer the sweetest tone of any bar material ~ but if you do purchase one, be prepared to treat one like eggs!!
Slide On!
Ian (Diamond Bottlenecks).
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