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Topic: Effect loop question- Could Really Use Some Advice |
Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 29 Feb 2016 5:45 pm |
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The reverb in my NV400 died some time ago. I have been using an RP155 strictly for reverb. I set it on top of my amp and run it through the front effects loop. But, with it setting on top of the amp, people knock it off, or hit the up/down buttons. It's quite startling to kick off the first song with a patch consisting of a 983ms delay, 36 repeats, octave added one octave down, through a pitch shifter set a 2nd up, though an auto-wah, and finally, a ring modulator. Quite disturbing as you can imagine.
But seriously, I am thinking of mounting it inside my NV400 cabinet, out of the way (and one less thing to carry and set up). Would the front loop, or the rear loop be best? I tried running it through the rear loop, and there is no difference as far as I can tell. The only thing is, in the rear loop, when I turn the amp on, even with the volume off, I get a loud "Peavey pop". I don't get it as bad through the front loop. I can probably live with the loud reverberated pop if I had too. I could just run the patch cables from the effect to the reap loop, whereas, for the front loop, I would have to run the patch cords through the speaker baffle somehow (most likely drilling some kind of holes)to be able to plug into the front. Any thoughts.
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Tim Russell
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Posted 29 Feb 2016 6:37 pm
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Re: the "Peavey pop".
I had a Barcus-Berry amp in the 80's that popped when powered on/off. I played mostly church concerts at that time, and it was annoying to say the least to have that amp popping at startup/shutdown.
I installed a "standby" switch, SPST, lifting one of the speaker wires when turning on/off. Flip that switch first, then the power switch.
Problem solved.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 6 Mar 2016 7:08 pm
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Charlie Thompson
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South Carolina, USA
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Posted 7 Mar 2016 1:23 pm
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| If you mount it inside it will be hard to get to I'd put velchro on top of the amp |
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Mike Brown
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Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 7 Mar 2016 1:35 pm Reverb
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Suggestion..........replace the reverb pan. It is normal for the amp to "pop" through a solid state amp.
It would be easiest to Velcro to the top of the amplifier. Naturally, it would be accessible as well. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 7 Mar 2016 8:40 pm Re: Reverb
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| Mike Brown wrote: |
Suggestion..........replace the reverb pan. It is normal for the amp to "pop" through a solid state amp.
It would be easiest to Velcro to the top of the amplifier. Naturally, it would be accessible as well. |
I've tried to replace the tank, and the cable harness. Still doesn't work.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 7 Mar 2016 8:43 pm
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| Charlie Thompson wrote: |
| If you mount it inside it will be hard to get to I'd put velchro on top of the amp |
Not an issue. I've been using that RP155 for a few years and have never touched the controls. And the bigger problem isn't the knocking off the top of the amp, it's people hitting the program up and down switches by mistake.
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Jack Stanton
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Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
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Posted 8 Mar 2016 4:44 am
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The real question is what the hell are people touching your stuff on your amp for? I play with 5 different bands/ artists, and other than the occasional
sound man putting a mike on my amp at the beginning of the night, no one ever goes near my amp.
But to answer your question, if you really never adjust it I'd do what Mike Brown suggests, remove the reverb pan and mount it on the floor of the cabinet. Maybe mount a power strip too, so you can just pull out a single plug and go.
As for the Peavey pop, I've owned about nine of them and the only ones that didn't make that sound were the Session 400's and at LTD's. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 8 Mar 2016 7:59 am
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They don't touch the unit on purpose. It happens when they run PA cables. The places I play, I am usually right against a wall, and reaching over my amp is the easiest way to run them without moving the amp, which wouldn't be impossible.
My plan is to mount it on the floor of the amp. I'm trying to find one of those power strips that have the metal case, with ears that come on the ends with a hole to screw them onto something, hopefully a three outlet one. I can plug the amp into it also. As large as the wal-wart is, I'll need to attach it to the strip to insure it doesn't fall out in transit, and possibly damage the speaker.
I know the pop is normal (been doing it since 1984). I guess my question is, which loop is the best choice? When plugged into the front loop, I just hear the pop, which can be adjusted low enough by the gain controls so as to not blow the audience out the door. The rear loop has the pop and a really loud reverb added to it.
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 8 Mar 2016 12:13 pm
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Does the NV400 have a headphone socket with a break jack?
My Fender does, and I plug in the headphones I use for tuning before I power on, as I hate the noise - a thump for on and a nasty crack for off, though not always - I guess it depends when in the AC cycle you hit the switch....
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 8 Mar 2016 5:55 pm
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| Ian Rae wrote: |
Does the NV400 have a headphone socket with a break jack?
My Fender does, and I plug in the headphones I use for tuning before I power on, as I hate the noise - a thump for on and a nasty crack for off, though not always - I guess it depends when in the AC cycle you hit the switch.... |
Nope. No headphone jack, although I wish it did.
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