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Topic: Conversion well on the way |
Georg Sørtun
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Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 27 Dec 2015 4:10 am |
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Will report that one more Dekley D10 is lost to conversion, as it is slowly being turned into an SD10 'Twin Tuned Extended E major' with 5 pedals & 4(maybe 5) kneelevers.
It is in playable condition now - even without all the extra changes in place, and it sounds just as I expected it would with a little more of the "Dekley body-tone" now that the C6 neck is removed.
Once the inner workings is set up to my satisfaction - which may take a while given the complexity of balancing the many changes on a 3R/2L changer, I'll put on the thinnest pad I can make to sort of finish it off. Thick, soft, pads are not my thing, but I'd like to cover the holes left by the C6 neck. |
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2015 9:10 am
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Keep every part you remove in case you want to sell it. Too many D10 steels get converted and the parts get scattered to the 4 winds.. I would have done the exact same thing as you since I don't play C6.. I would hang on to the parts.... bob
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 27 Dec 2015 9:32 am
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I haven't been around PSGs for long, but if you don't play C6, why not sell your D10 to someone who does (or wants to) and buy an SD10? And why did you get it in the first place? Seems a waste to dismantle permanently something that has been carefully put together.
I suppose the answer is it's just stuff and you can do what you want.
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Georg Sørtun
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Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 27 Dec 2015 9:34 am
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Sure, I'll keep the removed parts stored away in a safe place, just in case. It probably won't come up for sale while I'm around though.
I'm actually short of parts for the pulls - have used up all "barrels" and most bellcranks from the C6 on my new 10 string setup, and am still not finished. May have to order some. |
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 27 Dec 2015 9:48 am
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Maybe I was a bit harsh - you seem to be recycling most of it! 
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 27 Dec 2015 10:06 am
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And why not have the ideal guitar, the one you want?
Why consider someone else in some indeterminate future?
A pedal steel isn't a communal project, it's a personal thing.
If you want a D-10, you should get your own.
There's nothing like a widebody, with the levers in the right places. Nothing like a loafer; the pad doesn't get in the way.
I trust Georg's instincts to do right by himself.
I think it's looking pretty good--or just pretty. |
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John Goux
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California, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2015 10:15 am
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Georg, can you explain your tuning? And the basics of your coped? I did a forum search and did not find it.
John |
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Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 27 Dec 2015 10:19 am
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Ian ... the correct answer is that I don't know of any other brand of PSG that can be rigged the way I want and take the strain, and none that sound the way I want either.
If anything: Dekleys are solid, and they have their own "tone"...
Spent several years trying to find a replacement for the Dekley I bought new around -81, and converted in -88 to -92, with no luck. Also had no luck getting the builders I know to build me one to my specifications - maybe I didn't try hard enough.
I have a couple of single-neck PSGs of other brands - on both sides of the pond. They are kind of OK, but they don't have the strength needed for my tuning, and they fall short on tone/sustain.
So, yes, I wouldn't mind having a single-neck Dekley for re-rigging, but after having had this D10 for 5 years and being happy with all but the tuning and the fact that the C6 neck was "redundant" (to me), as I need a "near copy" of the well-playing and hard-played Dekley S10 I have back in Norway, to play around with while I'm in the US for a few months at a time, the only logical thing was to modify this Dekley D10 to my specs and be done with it.
And, FWIW, I don't really play E9 either, but rather a tuning that is close enough for comfort - linked to in my original post. After 25+ years with that tuning I am reluctant to go back to traditional E9. |
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 27 Dec 2015 10:28 am
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Georg, thanks for explaining - it all makes perfect sense. Sound is everything and it requires strength. I was mildly outraged for a little while, but it's passed now...
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Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 27 Dec 2015 10:30 am
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Georg, can you explain your tuning? And the basics of your coped? I did a forum search and did not find it.
John |
John, to make sure you find it, here's a link to my copedent...
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/var/s10tt-10.html
And here's an article I have written about the original conversion - so far the only one (until I have finished converting this D10)...
http://www.gunlaug.no/msc/smc-090617.html |
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Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 27 Dec 2015 10:43 am
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| Ian Rae wrote: |
| Georg, thanks for explaining - it all makes perfect sense. Sound is everything and it requires strength. I was mildly outraged for a little while, but it's passed now... |
Good 
FWIW: I don't mind arguments and/or disagreements. Some of what others bring into a discussion may acually make sense ... sometimes.
Although I won't take this new conversion all the way - it'll keep its original neck and look, it won't end up far behind the original conversion in tone and sustain.
Here's the original "bell"...
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