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Gary Mcquaig


From:
Blackshear Georgia, USA
Post  Posted 29 Dec 2015 8:16 am    
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I have a Emmons S10 Reissue and i'm looking for knee lever
extenders for it. I was told by forum member to check with GFI
manufactor and I did. He said that they would not work on my
guitar. I'm trying to keep my guitar as original as possible without buying shorter legs and cutting my peddle rods.
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Jeff Metz Jr.


From:
York, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 29 Dec 2015 8:56 am    
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A piece of aluminum stock from your local hardware store slid over the knee lever would work fine.
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Jerry Overstreet


From:
Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 29 Dec 2015 9:29 am    
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Is your guitar standard height? If not, you might be able to trade legs etc. with someone. If it is, I would encourage you to do a search here on the forum to see the how the Emmons' lever flags are made if you're wanting to keep everything original. Maybe check with Jerry Roller, Mike Cass, et al for parts.
Hopefully you can find some of the anodized ones to match your knee levers.

The Emmons ones I have had were short, about 2 1/2 inches fold up type extenders that fold down 90 degrees when used, then fold up against the main lever for packing up. Like the one in the pic below.

Of course, there are other ways to screw wider flags on your levers, but you might want to see if everything clears when packed up. http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix0806/5272_IM000140_2.jpg
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix0806/950_71_Emmons_Rosewood__Plain_CU_Outside__1.jpg
Beautiful guitar btw.
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Dick Sexton


From:
Greenville, Ohio
Post  Posted 29 Dec 2015 9:51 am     These work for me...
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Knee Lever Flag Mods...

History: Some steel guitar manufacturers use the edge of the knee lever material against the knee of the player. Because I am short, I found this to be very uncomfortable and looked to add flags to “all” of my knee levers. After a couple failed attempts, I came on what I think is a great solution. A Knee Lever Flag that attaches to the existing knee lever using Velcro and can be easily remove.

Material: I wanted them to be made out of material that I could easily find and was soft enough to be worked with ordinary hand tools. As it turned out, the local Lowes Hardware store has such a material that is fairly inexpensive. Aluminum bar stock in several lengths, that is 1 & ½ inch wide. Along with a thin wall aluminum channel stock that as ½ inch rails and can be gotten in channel width, that will fit over my existing knee levers.

Lever dimensions: I found, that about the perfect length for the standard knee levers was 5 inches X 1 ½ inches (the width of the stock). Remember because these are attached using Velcro, they can be moved somewhat to accommodate a taller or shorter player. The vertical lever flag, I found needed to be a little longer on my steel and 6 inches worked perfectly.

Construction: I used a “Hack Saw” to cut the flat bar stock and “Channel” stock. I then filed the corners to about a ¼ in radius. I cut the bar stock (after the first trial) ¼ in shorter then the Knee Lever Flag. This insures the channel sits with in the flag material when assembled and in stalled so no sharp edges can catch on clothing. You can imagine how I found this to be necessary. All edges are filed and sanded round and polished. The standard knee lever flags are assembled with the channel right on the edge of the Flag. The Vertical Knee Lever is assembled with the channel set back about a ¼ inch from the Flags edge. Every steel is different and placement must be determined before assembled. It is necessary to rough up the back of the Channel and the Flag where the two pieces will be Epoxyed together. Then clean with Alcohol or Acetone. I used JB Weld, Two Part Epoxy, not the quick dry to glue the pieces together. Lowes also sells this. It does not take much as the pieces sit flat against one another. About a ¼ inch dot of each, Hardener and Epoxy, mixed well and applied only to the area where the two pieces meet. The two pieces must be held together tightly during the gluing process to ensure a very good bond. I used clothes spins to do this, you will be able to think of something that will work for you. Set aside and don't touch during the gluing process.

Assembly: After bonded and you have polished as you want, Clean in side the Channel with Alcohol or Acetone. Cut a strip of Velcro as long as the Channel and just wide enough to go down in side the Channel. Iinstall it into the channel using firm pressure. I cut both types of Velcro, loop and hook, the same length (the one for the existing knee lever may be longer for later adjustment). Clean the existing knee lever with Alcohol or Acetone and apply the opposite Velcro to the edge that will mate up with the new Knee Lever Flag. Attach using firm pressure. Wala, done. This takes some effort but will be well worth it in comfort and ease of use.
Note of caution: These flags will wear your existing knee levers slightly where the materials touch and rub against one another. I advise using tape where the materials touch and rub. If not it can wear off finish or anodize. Be advised! Questions? Email me.

Good luck, My best to you...
Dick Sexton





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Gary Mcquaig


From:
Blackshear Georgia, USA
Post  Posted 29 Dec 2015 11:37 am     Knee Lever
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Thanks for the response and awesome solutions looks great.
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Jack Goodson

 

From:
new brockton,alabama (deceased)
Post  Posted 29 Dec 2015 3:04 pm     Knee lever extenders
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Gary, go down to your local auto parts store and buy about 2/feet of heater hose, you might want to measure them. I won,t call any names , but he used these for a long time even when he used to play the opry a lot....thanks jack
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Len Amaral

 

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Rehoboth,MA 02769
Post  Posted 29 Dec 2015 4:08 pm    
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Home Depot in the hardware isle has aluminum flat stock. I cut and polished the flat stock and then cleaned the knee lever with alcohol then used 3M double faced tape to attach the flat stock to the knee lever. Works very well.
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Ronnie Boettcher


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Brunswick Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 29 Dec 2015 8:33 pm    
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Why don't you just cut the legs, and rods, and you will have a good looking stock steel guitar. Your problem is a no brainer. Ronnie
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Gary Mcquaig


From:
Blackshear Georgia, USA
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2015 8:59 am     Knee Extenders
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Jack I took your advice and bought 5/8" heater hose and it works great and easy on the knee's if your wearing shorts LOL. 5 minute solution.
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Jack Goodson

 

From:
new brockton,alabama (deceased)
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2015 9:09 am     Knee levers
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Gary, I would not have ever thought of that, but my best friend sonny Purdum has used the same thing on his push pull for a lon time. I don,t use them because my knees are too long....thanks jack
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