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Topic: is there a pattern when speed pickin----?? |
Terry Sneed
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Posted 29 Mar 2004 5:24 am |
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like the Hal Rug and weldon Myric 2 finger, 2 pedal, three string
speed pickin course, and Jeff Newman's "no speed limit". Is there a pattern you guys go by to get from chord to chord, or is it just use em where ever they fit in a fast song.I use the licks in Jeff's "no speed limit" a lot, but ain't sure where to go with the Hal and Weldin course. don't know when to use it.
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Terry Sneed
From:
Arkansas,
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Posted 29 Mar 2004 5:09 pm
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Hmmmm, just get a lick in here and there huh? 
thought maybe there was a course showing a pattern how to use speed pickin when changin chords n stuff. |
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Jody Sanders
From:
Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
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Posted 29 Mar 2004 9:41 pm
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| Hi Terry. Most of the speed pickig evolves around scales. I learned several scales and just "mix and match" on a fast tune. Jody. [This message was edited by Jody Sanders on 29 March 2004 at 09:44 PM.] |
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Skip Mertz
From:
N.C. (deceased)
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Posted 30 Mar 2004 1:38 am
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Terry , I use Hals and Weldons excersize to warm up everyday. I never use the pattern intentionally when playing a fast ride although it helps with dexterity. You will make up your own licks and runs around scales and chords. Dont copy Jeffs runs or you will end up sounding like a clone of Jeff
I can always tell when someone has studied his courses when they play some of those licks! Use that 2 finger excersize everyday and your speed will improve. You cant rush it |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 30 Mar 2004 3:57 am
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Terry, although I make no claims as being a Speed Picker,but the answer to the question is..
"There is a reason to the madness"
these are comments based on my opinion..and only my opinion..
IF you can't play slow you can't play fast..
The trick to speed pickin' in my view is having a complete understanding of position playing, playing phrases in diminished ascending phrases and descending phrases, Linking the pedals down phrases without thinking to the pedals up phrases and Knee lever phrases.
My dexterity is not where it needs to be, heck maybe it never will be, but the excercises I use allow for "Auto Pilot"..which is really what it's all about anyway..
No different than a 6 stringer ripin off licks across and up/down the neck...or a keyboard player goin' crazy..the common thread is a full understanding of where you are, where you're going and how to get back !
It sounds like it's learning licks..but it's not..it's about really understanding the Instrument, then linking the phrases without your picks falling off !
The Hall/Weldon course mentioned above was a fine example of the task at hand but I think that many that used it missed the boat, they learned the lick but didn't learn what the lick was doing. I recall a good friend in Ct and I both got it at the same time. we both learned it note for note and could execute..He thought it was useless 'cause he couldn't figure out where to play it in a a song..now this is where I'm gonna get cocky..I have been using portions of the phrases and still do in alomst everything I play. I looked at Speed Pickin as connecting the dots..he looked at it as NEW LICKS...
In about a month I am going to offer a Speed Pickin' program on EBAY where there will be 3 varieties of Steel Pickin along with a Tele pickin track to study and play along with..Problem is right now I still can't play the Steel parts !
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[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 30 March 2004 at 04:00 AM.] |
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Terry Sneed
From:
Arkansas,
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Posted 30 Mar 2004 8:51 am
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Jody, that's kinda what I do. heck, that's all I know to do is use licks, and phrases I've learned through courses like Jeff Newman's, Bruce Buoton's and a few others.
thanks guys
Terry |
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John Knight
From:
Alaska
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Posted 30 Mar 2004 2:06 pm
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Hi Terry,
At the end of Hal and Weldon's course they give examples of what chord progressions work with that pattern. I have played around with it and it fits with just about anything being played. Try this as well. Jump back two frets from your open key and use strings 1,3,4,5,6,7,8 and pedals A&B. You will find some nice stuff living there as well.
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D 10 Thomas with 8&6, '61'D-10 Sho-Bud 8&3
S12 Knight 6&4
Nashville 400 and Profex II
81' Fender Twin JBL's
Asleep at the Steel
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Terry Sneed
From:
Arkansas,
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Posted 30 Mar 2004 4:40 pm
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Ok John, I'll give em a try. 
[This message was edited by Terry Sneed on 31 March 2004 at 08:34 AM.] |
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joe wright
From:
Jackson, Michigan
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Posted 1 Apr 2004 4:53 am
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the patterns for speed picking are called scales. Learn where the scales are and then play connect a dot with your hands. The scale may change as the chords do so you need to think fast.
I practice over one scale for a period of time and make that automatic.
I'm creating practice DVD's that will have a scale pattern on the tv and a rhythm track playing for that pattern. You'll work on one pattern and then you'l add changes as you play. The audio track can be different speeds so you can get more proficient.
The coolest teaching aids are on the way...later...joe |
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