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Topic: Cherokee for C6th |
Chad Karnitz
From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin
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Posted 25 Apr 2010 6:57 am
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Does anyone have a C6th arrangement of Cherokee they'd be willing to share? |
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Peter Freiberger
From: California, USA
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Richard Damron
From: Gallatin, Tennessee, USA (deceased)
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Posted 25 Apr 2010 5:02 pm
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That don't do nuthin' but COOK!
Mmmm. Mmmm. Mmmm. |
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Steve Ross
From: New Mexico, USA
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Richard Damron
From: Gallatin, Tennessee, USA (deceased)
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Chad Karnitz
From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin
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Posted 29 Apr 2010 1:12 pm
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Tab anyone? |
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John Steele (deceased)
From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 29 Apr 2010 1:30 pm
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Hi Chad,
I'm in the middle of moving, or I'd take this on. Maybe I can scratch something out over the next couple of days.
Do you have a half tone raise on your 4th string ?
(A-Bb ?)
What do you use for your 1st string, D or G ? I guess it won't matter.
Give me a little time, and I'll do this for you in sections.
I can warn you now, it's a two-footer !
- John |
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Richard Damron
From: Gallatin, Tennessee, USA (deceased)
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Posted 30 Apr 2010 2:11 pm
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John -
Your sterling reputation precedes you. I, too, would be very interested in a copy of whatever you come up with. Please advise.
Respectfully,
Richard |
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Chad Karnitz
From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin
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Posted 30 Apr 2010 2:53 pm
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John:
Right now I have the standard 5 pedals and one knee lowering the C. |
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Mike Poholsky
From: Kansas, USA
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Posted 30 Apr 2010 6:47 pm
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Peter, Thanks for that post! Crazy Good! _________________ Zumsteel 12 Universal
SGBB
ShoBud VP
'64 Fender Twin Reverb/Fox Rehab
Fender Steel King w/BW 1501-4
FX to Taste |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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John Swain
From: Winchester, Va
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Posted 3 May 2010 8:36 am
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Crowbear, I believe that is Bob Wills"s Cherokee Maiden...The thread started on Ray Noble's Cherokee as recorded on Buddy Emmons "Steel Guitar Jazz"..I've posted a short tab of it that I learned from a tab course by Doug Jernigan sold in the early 1970's .Hope it helps!.JS |
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Ron Sodos
From: San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 4 May 2010 1:28 pm Jim Loessberg has it
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Jim has Cherokee (Jazz tune) provided thats the one you are looking for. He has it tabbed out and it comes with a CD of the audio. Actually has it here on the Forum in the instruction section. |
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Ron Sodos
From: San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 5 May 2010 9:25 am Cherokee and Cherokee Maiden
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These 2 are completely different tunes. Nothing to do with each other |
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John Steele (deceased)
From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 7 May 2010 4:14 pm
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Ok, here's what I know about Cherokee: Written, as John said, by Ray Noble and was first a major hit for Charlie Barnet's orchestra. It was a favourite jam tune and chord sequence for Charlie Parker, whose amazing "Koko" and "Warmin' Up A Riff" are improvisations over the Cherokee chord progression.
So, I'm nowhere near a steel, but I've written this out as far as the bridge, and I hope it's ok. There are optional ways to play alot of these chords, but this is what I'd do if I just sat down to play it.
To spare endless bar lines, each bar is actually two bars, strictly speaking.
I've proof read it twice, but that's no guarantee I'll check it again when I have an instrument in front of me... this week has been forsaken in favour of moving myself and a couple of pianos into a new pad.
After you've had a chance to absorb this "A" part, I'll write out the bridge. It's an excercise in II-V-I changes.
Tab: |
..Bb...........F-7..Bb13...EbM7............Ab7#11.....
1-------------|----------|----------------|-----------|
2-------------|----------|----------------|-----------|
3-----5--5(7--|-8(7------|-3(7-------3(7--|-----------|
4--5----------|-8(7--8(7-|-3(7--3(7--3(7--|-3(7--3----|
5-----5--5----|------8(5-|------3---------|-----------|
6--5----------|-8--------|-3---------3----|-3(6--3(6--|
7-------------|------8---|------3---------|-3----3----|
8-----5--5----|----------|----------------|-----------|
9--5----------|----------|----------------|-----------|
10------------|----------|----------------|-----------|
..Bb...........C9..........C-7.G7.....C-7..F7#5
1------------|-----------|-----------|---------
2------------|-10--------|-3---------|---------
3-----5--5(7-|-10----10--|-3--5------|---------
4--5---------|-------10--|----5--5---|-3--3R---
5-----5------|-10(5------|-3-----5(5-|-3--3(5--
6--5---------|-------10--|----5------|---------
7------------|-----------|-------5---|-3-------
8-----5------|-----------|-----------|---------
9--5---------|-----------|-----------|---------
10-----------|-----------|-----------|---------
..Bb...........F-7..Bb13...EbM7............Ab7#11.....
1-------------|----------|----------------|-----------|
2-------------|----------|----------------|-----------|
3-----5--5(7--|-8(7------|-3(7-------3(7--|-----------|
4--5----------|-8(7--8(7-|-3(7--3(7--3(7--|-3(7--3----|
5-----5--5----|------8(5-|------3---------|-----------|
6--5----------|-8--------|-3---------3----|-3(6--3(6--|
7-------------|------8---|------3---------|-3----3----|
8-----5--5----|----------|----------------|-----------|
9--5----------|----------|----------------|-----------|
10------------|----------|----------------|-----------|
..Bb............C9.........C-7..F13.......Bb
1-------------|-----------|--------------|------|
2-------------|-10--------|-3------------|------|
3-----5--5(7--|-10----10--|-3------------|------|
4--5----------|-------10--|----3(7--3(7--|-1----|
5-----5-------|-10(5------|-3--3(5--3(5--|------|
6--5----------|-------10--|--------------|-1----|
7-------------|-----------|----3----3----|-1(8--|
8-----5-------|-----------|--------------|------|
9--5----------|-----------|--------------|------|
10------------|-----------|--------------|------|
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- John |
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Paul Sutherland
From: Placerville, California
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Posted 7 May 2010 8:50 pm
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John: I've wanted to learn this song for years and I guess I was too dumb to figure it out. This is great. Can't wait the see the bridge. Thanks. |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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CrowBear Schmitt
From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 8 May 2010 1:38 am
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Thanx John
you da' man...  |
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Ray Mangrum
From: Nashville, TN.
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Posted 8 May 2010 5:25 am Tab
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John,
Thanks for the Tab, This is a great tune and it's nice of you to take time from a busy schedule to help those interested. Happy pickin' Ray |
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Richard Damron
From: Gallatin, Tennessee, USA (deceased)
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Posted 8 May 2010 6:58 am
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John -
Thanks much for the tab. Should have the first three bars memorized by the time you post the bridge.
Respectfully,
Richard |
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Bud Harger
From: Belton, Texas by way of Baton Rouge, Louisiana
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Posted 8 May 2010 7:21 am Thanks, John!
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John,
You know that I am a dedicated fan to your knowledge and wizardry. Thanks for doing this tab for all of us.
I have a tab of this someplace that I got from Chuck Lettes many moons ago. I learned it then, but have not played it for years. This'll get me started back on it.
Best personal regards,
Bud |
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steve takacs
From: beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 9 May 2010 11:46 pm check out John's tabs prior to Dec. 30, 2006
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John has a lot of good stuff on the old Forum prior to Dec 30, 2006. Thanks, John, steve t |
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John Steele (deceased)
From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 24 Jun 2010 3:54 pm
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By request, here's the bridge:
Tab: |
..C#m7..F#7.....BM7.....................Bm7............E7....
1--------------|-----------------------|---------------------|
2--------------|-----------------------|---------------------|
3--------------|--11(7-----------11(7--|---------------------|
4--16(7--16----|--11(7--11(7-----11----|-14(7----------14----|
5--16----16(5--|-------------11--------|-14---14-------14(5--|
6--------------|--11-------------11----|----------14---------|
7--16----16----|-----------------------|-14------------14----|
8--------------|-----------------------|---------------------|
9--------------|-----------------------|---------------------|
10-------------|-----------------------|---------------------|
...A...........Am7...D7......GM7..............
1------|-----|-------------|------------------|
2------|-----|-------------|------------------|
3------|-----|-------------|--7(7---------7(7-|
4------|-----|--12(7--12---|--7(7--7(7----7(7-|
5--9~~~|~~9--|--12----12(5-|------------7-----|
6--9~~~|~~9--|-------------|--7-----------7---|
7--9~~~|~~9--|--12----12---|------------------|
8------|-----|-------------|------------------|
9------|-----|-------------|------------------|
10-----|-----|-------------|------------------|
..Gm7...........C7......Cm7..F7#5.
1---------------------|----------|
2---------------------|----------|
3---------------------|----------|
4--10(7----------10---|--3---3r--|
5--10----10------10(5-|--3---3(5-|
6------------10-------|----------|
7--10------------10---|--3---3---|
8---------------------|----------|
9---------------------|----------|
10--------------------|----------|
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John Steele (deceased)
From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 24 Jun 2010 4:49 pm
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Here is a link to a couple of the masterpieces of 20th century music - Charlie Parker playing "Koko", which is an improvisation over the "Cherokee" changes. It is preceded by an (unrelated) introduction with Dizzy Gillespie, and the improvisation over these changes begins approximately 26 seconds in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rMiD8UUcd0
Astoundingly, there is a live version from a Carnegie Hall concert which is considerably faster than this.
Another Charlie Parker-Cherokee-related gem: This is "Warmin' Up a Riff" which was really a studio sound check, which is why is fades in, toward the end of the B section:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FuN1vZPp3k
Again, it is based on the Cherokee chord pattern. If you listen at 2:18, you'll hear Parker inserting a quotation from the recent Spike Jones hit "Cocktails for Two", which he then warps around the chords and repeats... and you'll hear Gillespie (playing piano) burst out laughing at the genius and humour of the man.
If anyone would like to tab that out, I'd love a copy.
- John
Last edited by John Steele (deceased) on 24 Jun 2010 4:58 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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jay thompson
From: east peoria, il USA
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Posted 24 Jun 2010 4:56 pm "CHEROKEE"
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John,
Thanks for your time and excellent work. I am really enjoying this song.
Best regards, Jay Thompson |
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