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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2004 1:46 pm |
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The inventor (coiner?) of the word informs be that the proper spelling is copedent, not copedant. It derives from arrangement.
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Dave Van Allen
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Souderton, PA , US , Earth
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Posted 4 Feb 2004 7:38 pm
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b0b... if you coin a phrase does that make you a "mintor"?
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Colm Chomicky
From:
Kansas, (Prairie Village)
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Posted 4 Feb 2004 8:26 pm
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| The answer lies just around the coiner. |
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Tom Olson
From:
Spokane, WA
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Posted 4 Feb 2004 9:36 pm
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| Sounds like a bunch of Bullion to me!! |
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Peter
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Posted 4 Feb 2004 9:59 pm
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| And the specialists who fix your setup for you, are they copedentists? |
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 5 Feb 2004 6:11 am
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I still have a Copedant on my Peddle Steel...JH
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Recluse
From:
Cleveland, Ohio, USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2004 9:41 am
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b0b: If I take up your cause would I be copedantic?
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2004 10:24 am
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Oh my word, I can't cope with this any longer. Someone get me a tylanol please.
carl
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Fred Layman
From:
Springfield, Missouri USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2004 2:50 pm
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| Carl, change the "a" to "e" in your medication to make it copacetic (or Websters permits copesetic and copasetic). |
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Bob Mainwaring
From:
Qualicum Beach Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
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Posted 5 Feb 2004 3:46 pm
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Hey guys - what languashing do you think this is??
Bob. of the Z.Bs.  |
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Mark van Allen
From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2004 11:11 pm
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So I suppose I have developed a "copedependent" relationship with my tuning...
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2004 12:12 am
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| Mark...I guess now you need to join a "12 string program". |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 6 Feb 2004 2:36 am
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| Ah yes a woid to the wize |
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Doug Rolfe
From:
Indianapolis, IN
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Posted 6 Feb 2004 3:53 am
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| I think this is in the rong sactshun. It belongs in humer or hummor or sumthing lack that. Donna, what do you tink? |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 6 Feb 2004 6:38 am
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here we go again ! 
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Marco Schouten
From:
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 6 Feb 2004 10:10 am
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My guitar isn't coopedenting, how 'bout yours?
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Chris Forbes
From:
Beltsville, MD, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2004 11:58 am
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| Marco, a shot of penicillin will clear that right up. [This message was edited by Chris Forbes on 06 February 2004 at 11:58 AM.] |
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Tom Bradshaw
From:
Walnut Creek, California, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2004 7:49 pm
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Explanation: I happened to mention to b0b that I am in the process of getting the word copedent (co-pee-dent) accepted as a real word by the Oxford English Dictionary people. They have been very receptive to the idea; even finding it intriguing that an instrument (which the person I talked to had never heard of) would have a word dedicated to it. It now appears that I should concentrate on getting them to establish a definition for "pedal steel guitar," an instrument that doesn't have an identity in the dictionary. That may be the first task to gain identity for our instrument.
As I mentioned in the past (here and in other publications), I coined this word simply to identify the combining of the pedal steel guitar's basic tuning, the alteration of that basic tuning by the utilization of its pedals and knee lever changes, and the arrangement of all of them as a group working together. Although many feel that copedent is the wrong word, no one has come up with a word that has only one meaning to describe the three components of the pedal steel. I just believe that our instrument needs a word dedicated to it, with no alternative meanings. Many like "set up" (or set-up). This combination of words means other things, and, it is actually two words.
The Oxford folks seemed to understand this and directed me to show that the word had been used for 25 years and, used in separate and independent media venues. I coined it nearly 30 years ago when writing for Guitar Player magazine. It is important that all of the independent venues spell the word the same as all the others do.
It was not my intent to create a controversy about this or see the subject deteriorate into a frivolous discussion (although I enjoyed all of the comedy here). In fact, I explained to b0b that just mentioning the spelling matter might not be appreciated.
So, that's the story. Whatever way this goes will never mean much to the world, but maybe it will to those who are seeking more identity for the pedal steel guitar. ...Tom
[This message was edited by Tom Bradshaw on 07 February 2004 at 07:34 AM.] |
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Patrick Ickes
From:
Upper Lake, CA USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2004 8:31 pm
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Hi Tom,
Keep us informed on your progress to get Copedent as a real word. Thanks again for getting me into this goofy world of pedal steel guitars.
Pat |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2004 8:43 pm
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I think the fact that we're able to joke about it demonstrates its viability as a "real word". Everyone here knows what it means, which is why the misspellings and variations are funny to steel players.
I use the word regularly, even though I think it's sort of ugly as words go, and I support Tom's efforts to get it into the dictionary.
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Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs, Open Hearts
Sierra Session 12 (E9), Williams 400X (Emaj9, D6), Sierra Olympic 12 (C6add9),
Sierra Laptop 8 (E6add9), Fender Stringmaster (E13, A6),
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Bill Llewellyn
From:
San Jose, CA
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Posted 7 Feb 2004 8:02 am
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 I support the word, too. It may not roll off the tongue as nicely as some other words, but its inertia as a catch-all term for all things related to tuning, changes, pedals, levers, etc., on a PSG is pretty well established. It would be nice to see it become officialized at a higher level, like Tom is working on now.
PS: Tom, your old MSA U12 has been serving me very well for about 4-1/2 years now. Lovely guitar.
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Bill, steelin' since '99 | Steel page | My music | Steelers' birthdays | Over 50?[This message was edited by Bill Llewellyn on 07 February 2004 at 08:13 AM.] |
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Colm Chomicky
From:
Kansas, (Prairie Village)
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Posted 7 Feb 2004 9:34 am
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Type "copedent" into Google, you get 56 hits. Type "copedant" into Google, you get 104 hits.
So when one invents a word, it is kind of like playing Dr. Frankenstein. You create a monster that has a mind of its own and can no longer be controlled. |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2004 9:50 am
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See what happens when people can't find a word in the dictionary?  |
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Nick Reed
From:
Russellville, KY USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2004 11:17 am
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I realize everyone has an opinion and that's great. . . but heres the way I feel about it. I hate that word "COPEDENT". You guys can use it if you like but I'm going to refer to it as "Pedal Setup". It's just much easier for me, since I talk in simple language. Besides others who also don't know ask me what it means, and I'm tired of trying to explain it.
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Terry Wendt
From:
Nashville, TN, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2004 11:40 am
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How about 'pedset' ?  ?
I'm sorry we incorrectly spelled your word in the early issues of our magazine, Tom. Like it's been said though, it wasn't in the dictionary.
Good luck with your effort. But, why didn't anyone care to inform me about this???
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