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Bob Moore
From:
N. Rose, New York
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Posted 30 Jul 2015 5:48 pm |
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| Could you lower the lower E's to Eb and leave them there instead of using a lever or pedal? I'm talking the B6 side of the uni. leave string 4 as E. Has this been tried and not work? Bob |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 30 Jul 2015 6:23 pm
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This is the core of the Bb6 universal tuning.
It rests at the equivalent of D# (but it's really D because it's Bb6 and not B6), and RKL raises it Eb, where it becomes Eb9. David Wright adds a lever taking them up the next half step.
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Bill Stafford
From:
Gulfport,Ms. USA
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Posted 31 Jul 2015 4:54 am UNI question
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| Bob, in the 1970s I was playing a D-12 that A.J.Smith and myself made. Standard tunings E9/C6. Retired from the USN in 1973, came home to Gulfport, Ms. and went to a local music store where Jeff Newman was having a clinic. He was playing a S-10 and briefly talked about the E9 tuning and holding the Eb lever in to get some of the C6 notes on the first fret,etc. I had lots of questions later when I went home. Sent a message to Sierra Co. and asked them if they could make a cam operated lever that when activated, it would hold the Eb lever in place to get that C6. I did not want to have to hold it in and not be able to use additional lever changes. Also asked them if their changer could also raise the tenth string B to a D - same lever that lowered the Es to Eb. They said it would and then I ordered my single 14 Sierra with the tenth string in place of the ninth string D and then bottomed out the strings to be E,B and E -strings 12 ,13, and 14. I also added a high G# as my first string as I liked the high A in my old 12 string tuning. Added bonus here in the E tuning as it gave me 13ths in that tuning...All the standard C6 pedals now operate in the B chord structure and also gives changes compatabile in the E tuning. It is completely functional in both tunings and in my opinion, much easier to play in both tunings. Works fine. Go for it. Glad to help if I can. |
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Len Amaral
From:
Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 31 Jul 2015 6:14 am
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| My first Sierra U-12 had the lock that held strings 4&8 E to Ed. I had the Jeff Newman Universal VHS tape explaining his setup with no LKR and no lock. Joe Wight also had various tapes where he uses the U-12 as one big tuning rather that E9 or B6. That's pretty much where I have been hanging out for many years. |
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Bob Moore
From:
N. Rose, New York
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Posted 31 Jul 2015 6:19 pm
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| What about if you don't have a lock on e's? I had a uni at one time and it didn't have a lock lever and I wasn't' able to hold the lever due to physical problems. I can use levers for short times w/o problems. I was just wondering it it has ever been tried. Thank you all for your responses. Bob |
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Bill Stafford
From:
Gulfport,Ms. USA
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Posted 1 Aug 2015 12:56 am Uni Questions
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| Bob, in answer to your question, without a lock mechanism, a player just has to hold that change in and then you loose a movement. Joe Wright plays it not using the lock as his ability allows him to not need it. I was working at Sierra when we shipped his unit to him. My 14 String unit was the first one with that change lock as I wanted to play it as two different turnings per the double necks. Works fine for me . |
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Geoff Noble
From:
Scotland
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Posted 1 Aug 2015 2:32 am
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Not much good for live playing but if you want to practice in B6 mode and don't have a lock on the lever, a tie grip or piece of string pulling the lever over with the tie grip around the right rear leg. Depends on your D# lower being RKR of course.
I do this on my Carter U12 sometimes for extended B6 practice, pair of snips takes me back to E9 
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Geoff Noble
From:
Scotland
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 1 Aug 2015 9:21 am
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I am one of those fortunate people whose right leg naturally relaxes outwards, and I can comfortable engage RKR for as long as I like. If I were not so lucky I'm not sure what I would do. I realise that this is probably the least helpful post on this thread 
Although it is worth pointing out that my E lowers require little pressure - a heavier push takes string 8 on down to D in place of P6.
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Bob Moore
From:
N. Rose, New York
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Posted 1 Aug 2015 10:39 am
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| Thanks Gentlemen. I don't have one anymore but considering getting one. Bob |
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