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Roy Ayres
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Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 4 Jan 2004 12:36 pm |
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Don't like the word "Copedent"????
How about
Steel Guitar Tuning And Pedal Setup.
Abbreviated
SteeGuiTunAPedSup
And Pronounced
stee – gee – tun – ah – ped -- sup
Anyone have a better idea?
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Bill Llewellyn
From:
San Jose, CA
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Posted 4 Jan 2004 1:50 pm
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I suggest the German word for hardware configuration -- "Geraeteanordnung".  Now if I could just figure out how to pronounce it.
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Kenny Dail
From:
Kinston, N.C. R.I.P.
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Posted 4 Jan 2004 2:08 pm
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What is wrong with "What's your pedal set up?" Or, "What does your pedals do?"
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kd...and the beat goes on...
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 4 Jan 2004 3:21 pm
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Roy
Take two Tylenol III every four hours and call me in the morning |
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Bengt Erlandsen
From:
Brekstad, NORWAY
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Posted 4 Jan 2004 10:53 pm
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Combine the raise-lowers to get a
Railo-map
Railo setup
Railo config
or RaiL O's
Or just use Copedent |
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Roger Shackelton
From:
MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 4 Jan 2004 11:34 pm
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Tom Bradshaw invented the unique acronym copedent, over 35 years ago, to mean steel guitar tuning + pedal arrangement. Use it or don't use it. Let's just agree to disagree over its use.
Roger |
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Joe Drivdahl
From:
Montana, USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2004 12:00 am
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For me, Copedent doesn't quite cut it because the setup really has nothing to do with chords. Its the strings, pedals and knee levers we are really talking about, and since everybody already knows what the strings are tuned to (unless you have an unusual tuning), we're down to pedals and knee levers. And, since knee levers are the only kind of levers there are, the word "knee" becomes redundant. So we're down to Pedals and Levers. What can we do with that? Well let's see, there's "PedLev" or maybe "LevPed", but since they both suck bigtime, lets abreviate those to simply, "P & L". Prounounced, "PEE 'N ELL.", Demir.
I like that... "P&L." It just rolls off your toungue doesn't it? ...P&L.
Its even got its own built-in future urban myth. I foresee someone years from now saying, "Oh yeah P&L. You know that stands for Paul and Lloyd, the 2 best country steel guitarists ever..." And with a knowing wink and a smile, we'll all say, "Oh really? Cool", but we'll all know it was coined right here on the Steel Guitar Forum by some noname guy from Montana who was freezing his butt off one cold winter night with nothing better to do than find a replacement for the term Copedent."
What's your P&L guys?
Joe |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 5 Jan 2004 12:21 am
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Conpedlevup
Steel configuration
Tuning Set-up
PedLevup
Pull configuration ( non PP of course)
Retuneconfig
Chordfiguration
Accordation
Pulleration
Retunement
Chordbase
Achordment
Pullment
Odd word, but Tom got it pretty close.
For me the pedals and levers change the chord on the guitar. That is their exact function.
It is in common useage.
P&L is cute, but isn't a full description.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 05 January 2004 at 12:25 AM.] |
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Nick Reed
From:
Russellville, KY USA
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Posted 6 Jan 2004 3:03 pm
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| I'm with Kenny on this one! |
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Gene Jones
From:
Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 6 Jan 2004 3:13 pm
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| Edalpa etsup.....! |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 6 Jan 2004 4:31 pm
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P&L (for pedals and levers) doesn't quite make it because it doesn't include the tuning. So how about TP&L? (Sounds like a railroad, doesn't it?) 
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Reggie Duncan
From:
Mississippi
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Posted 6 Jan 2004 10:05 pm
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| Trethebel Karte |
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Carl West
From:
La Habra, CA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 7 Jan 2004 5:56 am
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I agree with Roy on that silly word !
Cael West |
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James Morehead
From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Jan 2004 8:57 am
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| I like b0b's theory. Would that make a setup person an engineer? How 'bout us playing it after it's set up--would we be conductors? Steel rail instead of bar? OK, I'll get back in my hole now!! |
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Joe Drivdahl
From:
Montana, USA
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Posted 7 Jan 2004 10:10 am
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bOb,
TP&L does sound like a railroad, and P&L alone sounds like a ranch; I think I prefer the railroad.
James, those are good questions? Also, who would be the brakeman, the drummer? Or we could change the wording a little: "Breakman." Then when we go on break and some fool wants to cop licks from us we can say, "Hey, I'm on breakman."
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Roy Ayres
From:
Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Jan 2004 11:34 am
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After thinking about it and reading Joe Drivdahl's comments, I'm not sure I like "stegeetunapedsup" after all. Picking up on Joe's train of thought, we don't need "knee" because there is only one kind of lever. If the word is used exclusively to describe something about a steel, then the word "steel" can be left out. Since all steel guitars have to be tuned, we don't necessarily need the word "tuning". Along the same line, it only applies to pedal steels, so we can leave out the word "pedal". This simplifies the word considerably and also makes it easy to remember and to pronounce. The word becomes, simply
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So, any time you hear a steel guitar player say " " you know what is in his/her mind.
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And, in addition, it will be easier to look up in the dictionary, as it will be the first word there.
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Gene Jones
From:
Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 7 Jan 2004 12:23 pm
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| ....sounds pretty good....how ya got that thang hooked up?.... |
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Roy Ayres
From:
Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Jan 2004 1:08 pm
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Gene:
" " |
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Drew Howard
From:
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 7 Jan 2004 3:48 pm
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i've been using Copedent for a while and thought i was "in"
after readin'the past threads on this subject i'm opting for PSU
i do like P&L cause it reminds of them long gone train lines
[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 07 January 2004 at 04:37 PM.] |
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Lawrence Lupkin
From:
Brooklyn, New York, USA
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Posted 7 Jan 2004 3:55 pm
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Then again, for all you business folks out there, P + L also means "profit and loss." I'm sure not making a living playing music, but from what I've read, it seems like a potential sore spot amongst steelers.  |
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Roy Ayres
From:
Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Jan 2004 4:11 pm
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 7 Jan 2004 11:57 pm
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oops i forgot somethin'
HAPPY NEW YEAR Roy  |
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Joe Drivdahl
From:
Montana, USA
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Posted 9 Jan 2004 10:07 am
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Roy,
You're on the right track (notice the railroad motif) but " " is a bit much don't you think? It leaves a little too much to the imagination. Although, in computer programming " " would be considered a space. So we could substitute the word space everytime we hear " " from a steeler. What's your space, man?
I think I'm getting too much space.
jd
Joe. |
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Roy Ayres
From:
Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 9 Jan 2004 10:23 am
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Edited to make the space more meaningful[This message was edited by Roy Ayres on 09 January 2004 at 10:30 AM.] [This message was edited by b0b on 10 January 2004 at 12:21 AM.] [This message was edited by Roy Ayres on 10 January 2004 at 07:48 AM.] |
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