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Topic: Tragedy on my Pro III... |
Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 1 Jan 2004 11:45 am
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I just sold a beautiful Pro III on ebay for $1200 on ebay. Obviously the buyer got the deal of the century. The guitar had NO playtime AT ALL on the C6 and very very little on E9. I took the C6 neck off years ago, put a pad on it,and had a 7+4 copedant on the E9. A few gigs and two or three studio sessions was all that guitar was played in the last 10 years,and it was in mint/unused cond when I bought it. Anyway when I decided to reinstall and set up the C6 neck,changer etc,[I KEPT ALL the parts}I found that the vinyl/naugahyde covering I used on the pad had reacted with the gorgeous lacquer finish and MELTED it away in several spots.. some small some as big as your thumbnail.. UGLY holes right down to the stain... I was SICK... anyway,its sold and someone in Germany has a CHEAP very lightly used classic Bud..... actually the only time you can see a problem is when sitting at the steel,and she still looks great other wise,but I NEVER would have thought a piece of naugahyde would MELT a finish like that... Did I get screwed on the price ya think??? I had a HARD time even getting 1200 for it... That guitar is sweet except for the finish meltdown fiasco...... bob |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 1 Jan 2004 12:01 pm
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More likely it was the adhesive you used to secure the naugahyde. |
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David Doggett
From: Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 1 Jan 2004 8:24 pm
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Some people who should know say the Pro III was the best Sho-Bud ever made, in terms of a good compromise between tone, modern mechanics and playability. Because of their looks and venerable history, Sho-Buds get inflated prices. Your buyer got a real bargain. |
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Ray Montee
From: Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 1 Jan 2004 8:59 pm
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I hate to be the one to say this, but I've seen several of late going for in excess of $2,500 as I recall. Happy New Year! |
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Bill Hatcher
From: Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 1 Jan 2004 10:29 pm
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I used to do a lot of instrument repair. I have seen all sorts of damage to nitro lacquer from contact with plastic items. I have seen plastic guitar straps stored in the bottom of the case with the back of the guitar making contact. A perfect indention of the strap down the back of the instrument after a long period of time. The plastic pieces on guitar wall hangers will leave a deep mark if the instrument hangs on it too long. I am not surprised at all that the plastic reacted with the lacquer on your steel.
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Eric West
From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 2 Jan 2004 2:06 am
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I hate to tell you, but it doesn't take that much. All it took for my 5 year old Pro III was to get douched with rainwater on an outdoor paid job 19 years ago, and the water got into the cracks in the laquer and completely ruined it. I sanded it off and varathaned it, covering the putty spots with a caddy emblem and hearts spades etc.
I went on to play it with band after band in club after club for year after year while other people with nice guitars let theirs sit at home.
I've made some shy of a quarter million dollars with it. I could have bought 50 brand new Emmonses, but I like my Old PIII. It's outlived a dozen friends, a marriage, three good dogs, and over a hundred bands with more to come. Many more, God willing..
I'm not the happiest man in town, but I'm sure not the most miserable. What I don't owe to Bud Charleton for putting up with me for a couple years, I owe to my Old Horn.
I got 1200$ worth out of it in the first year I owned it. I paid 600$ for it.
It'll be given away some day, but I won't be the one that does it.
It ain't how much it's worth, it's how much you make it worth.
Real Estate, and Education are the only surefire investments I know of.
:}
EJL[This message was edited by Eric West on 02 January 2004 at 02:15 AM.] |
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Ryan Giese
From: Spokane, Washington, USA
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Posted 4 Jan 2004 12:20 am
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Wow! A qaurter million?! I've made about $30 off my Super Pro. But then again I'm 15 and I've only played a 2 or 3 songs a gig with my dad's band. Your right. that buyer in Germany did get quite the deal.
Ryan |
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Eric West
From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 4 Jan 2004 2:48 am
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Well Ryan, it's about 10 grand a year on average for most of 25 years. Sometimes I made 20, sometimes I made 5. Probably closer to two hundred. Lots of recording, introductions to good paying "day jobs", and of course more curly fries and free meals than I can count.
It's my "best friend". Let's just put it that way.
Not for sale.
You'll find out.
Just don't let people make you believe that something's right when you know it's not, and you'll do fine.
EJL |
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Ken Byng
From: Southampton, England
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Posted 5 Jan 2004 5:31 am
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I've had my Pro 111 since 1975. I will have a space made in my coffin for it - lol.
KB |
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