Emmons P/P #1002 D

Buster Warren · Post by **Buster Warren** » 21 Dec 2003 6:32 am

Has anyone out there got any info on the history of Emmons D-10 P/P serial # 1002 ?
I have contacted Emmons and they can't find the registration or anything, Its appears to have been light blue mica with black wood necks and 8x4, Carter says 1966 started at serial# 1024, so this is proably a 1965 ???
any help would be greatly appreciated !!

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Jay Ganz · Post by **Jay Ganz** » 21 Dec 2003 8:21 am

The type of changer will clue you in better
than that questionable Carter chart.
If it's a '65, it will have a wraparound
changer. '66 and '67's had the bolt-on type.

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 21 Dec 2003 8:21 am

Buster
Is there a "D" after the number?

According to the owner's list I've been compiling for several years now, #1002D should be a 1966 bolt-on. If your guitar is not a bolt-on, let me know.

If your guitar is a wraparound, #1002 would make it a 1965 guitar serialized by an invoice number. For example, #1024 is a '65 wraparound.

The "D suffix" series was started at 1000 to replace the "invoice number" system. My buddy in San Antonio owns a black mica bolt-on #1014D, Herby Wallace had #1006D a while back, etc.

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Bobby Boggs · Post by **Bobby Boggs** » 21 Dec 2003 10:47 am

Buster wrote it had wood necks.So even the 64 and 65's with wood necks had bolt on changers right??.........bb

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 21 Dec 2003 11:09 am

I'm screwed up... I can't even read a complete post and retain the information for a minute without opening my big mouth and getting it wrong!

He said it was a "D", he said it was wood necks, blue mica, etc. Sheeesh!

So, I think it's a '66, based on the serial number, the blue mica, etc.

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Buster Warren · Post by **Buster Warren** » 21 Dec 2003 7:39 pm

Thank's, Guys, It does have a bolt on changer
and I was confused by the carter serial # list,,,,I know it has 12/20/67 stamped on the
other end and three initials W.M.M.

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Bryan Adams · Post by **Bryan Adams** » 24 Dec 2003 11:18 am

buster, your guitar is was likely built in 67...that year they started over with the ser numbers and added a D, the carter numbers are in some error in the early years. 65 and some 66 guitars were numbered with the invoice number...all wood neck guitars had bolt-changers...BA[This message was edited by Bryan Adams on 24 December 2003 at 11:21 AM.]

RON PRESTON · Post by **RON PRESTON** » 24 Dec 2003 11:47 am

Bryan,
What would W.M.M. stand for?

Jerry Roller · Post by **Jerry Roller** » 24 Dec 2003 2:49 pm

Anyone know what Weldon's middle initial is?
I had #1128D and have #1148D both are 1967's and split changers.[This message was edited by Jerry Roller on 24 December 2003 at 08:44 PM.][This message was edited by Jerry Roller on 24 December 2003 at 08:54 PM.]

Howard Whittington · Post by **Howard Whittington** » 24 Dec 2003 7:17 pm

I have # 1127D which would be the first 1967 produced if the numbering list I have is correct..It is (was 8 and 4 ) I added the vertical to it.

Jay Ganz · Post by **Jay Ganz** » 25 Dec 2003 7:32 am

So, according to Bryan, it looks like
anything with a "D" after the number is
actually made in 1967.

Nick Reed · Post by **Nick Reed** » 25 Dec 2003 9:25 am

My '66 D-10 Bolt-on P/P is #2615 without the (D). However I have a '66 S-10 Bolt-on P/P and it has the (S) in it's serial #. It is #1068-S. Both guitars are black mica. Herb, I think you used to play my D-10. NR[This message was edited by Nick Reed on 25 December 2003 at 09:27 AM.]

Harley Morris · Post by **Harley Morris** » 25 Dec 2003 7:37 pm

Ron: I believe Weldons middle name is "Mazing"...Could be wrong here HM

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 25 Dec 2003 7:47 pm

Nick, does your bolt-on have a white case? I've owned 3 metal bolt-ons in my life, and they are now owned by John Smorada, Dicky Overby, and Bob Hoffnar. I did have possession of John Ely's bolt-on for awhile during his first sojourn to Hawaii, and this one might be the guitar you now have.

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Charlie McVay · Post by **Charlie McVay** » 25 Dec 2003 11:13 pm

hi herb!
irestored or rebuilt jon smorada's guitar with all original parts several years ago.
i wan't everything original when i set them up or restore them.i'm a finatic about doing them right and just like they were original.i'm not a shoemaker or cut no corners.thats a great sounding guitar.
charlie

Nick Reed · Post by **Nick Reed** » 25 Dec 2003 11:17 pm

Herb,
Yes the John Ely Guitar is the one I have. It has a white case. Nick