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David Decker


From:
Canton, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2003 7:11 am    
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What years of Emmons Push/Pulls were the Chrome fretboards used on? Or are they a fretboard they offer now and never used on a production guitar?
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Jerry Roller


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Van Buren, Arkansas USA
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2003 8:14 am    
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Emmons offers a choice of chrome or black and white fretboards. I put chrome on all
my guitars. I just put new chrome ones on my '77 D10 three days ago. They are very nice looking. Under certain lighting they can be a problem to see the markers but I am willing to accept that.
Jerry
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C Dixon

 

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Duluth, GA USA
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2003 9:18 am    
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My '69 came with chrome fret boards. The frets were thinner than when they went to the white fret markers. I never cared for the white ones because of that.

In addition (like Jerry) I love the chrome ones from an esthetic point of view.

carl
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David Decker


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Canton, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2003 9:35 am    
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I'm working on my 74, and they need changed. Just wanted to know what it would have had on it new.
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Michael Lewis

 

Post  Posted 30 Nov 2003 11:49 am    
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The chrome are available on the Emmons site with no picture. I'd really like to see them. Any pics available?
As always, Thanks!
Mike

Jerry Roller


From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2003 12:23 pm    
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Michael, the new chrome fretboards have the thinner fret lines and are very sharp. If you like I can email you photos of the new ones one my burgandy birdseye lacquer '77 that I have restored. I also stock and sell
the chrome fretboards or they can be obtained
from the Emmons company. They are in very
nice looking fretboards.
Jerry
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2003 12:40 pm    
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I found that the chrome fret boards reflect glare under professional stage lighting conditions and couldn't use them. Very annoying. The white fret markers show up real well even in dark conditions when the stage lights are turned down. I liked the whites much better.
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Michael Lewis

 

Post  Posted 30 Nov 2003 1:32 pm    
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Thanks so much. I'd love to see them and your p/p Jerry!
Kevin, I don't doubt the glare issue. After giving the chrome plate that holds the switch and tone control the Ricky Davis treatment I was put off a bit by the reflection of the overhead fan at my last outing!
Mike

Herb Steiner


From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2003 2:08 pm    
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Well, there are two types of chrome fretboards for Emmons... the original type, and the current type.

The originals from the 1960's had chrome frets and borders but the black areas were a high gloss, very reflective paint. When red stage lights are the predominant color and the angle is just right, the frets disappear since the black reflects as much of the red as do the frets.

The newer chrome fretboards have a black paint that is more matte' in color and less reflective. This allows for much greater definition of the frets.

As Kevin stated, the white fretmarkers are the easiest seen onstage. Since I have original fretboards on my main Emmons (a '64), I just put up with the lighting hassles and keep the guitar original. If I had to change, I'd go to the newer chrome boards like the ones I have on other guitars. I just prefer the look of the chrome while acknowledging that the white is the superior choice for stage work.

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Earnest Bovine


From:
Los Angeles CA USA
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2003 5:20 pm    
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You can get a spray can of matte finish at the hardware store. It helps a lot with those annoying reflections on my fret boards.
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Jerry Roller


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Van Buren, Arkansas USA
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2003 9:03 pm    
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I now have photos of the '77 push pull with the new chrome fretboards. I played it tonight in a Church and it sure sounded nice and those chrome fretboards really look good on the red lacquer, maroon shaded guitar. I will be emailing them to you guys who asked to see them shortly. David, I will answer your questions in an email.
Jerry
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Ricky Davis


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Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 1 Dec 2003 7:19 pm    
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Are are a couple pics of the Beautiful Emmons Lacquer Steel with Chrome-lined Fretboards that my friend Jerry Roller restored; and I'll have to say..."You do Awesome Work Jerry".....Beautiful!!!.
Full Shot

Closer Shot

Ricky

[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 01 December 2003 at 09:19 PM.]

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Jerry Roller


From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
Post  Posted 1 Dec 2003 8:01 pm    
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Ricky, my friend, you are too much! What a great job of displaying the photos. Are you
just GREAT at everything you do, or what??
Many thanks Ricky,
Jerry
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jay thompson

 

From:
east peoria, il USA
Post  Posted 1 Dec 2003 8:33 pm    
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Hey fellows, The fret board pictures are great but it takes two monitors to view them.

I have an '84 LeGrande that came with narrow, white fret markers, same width as the chrome ones. They work very well in any lighting conditions. I also have a '96 LeGrande II that has wide, white fret markers. The width makes no difference in playability(sp)only in the appearence.

Best regards,
Jay Thompson
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Jerry Roller


From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
Post  Posted 1 Dec 2003 9:17 pm    
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Jay, I took the photos and I am not a photographer, but I was taking them to email them to guys who wanted to see up close of the fretboards. Ricky was so kind as to offer to post them for me. He told me they were too large to post but he could only cut them down so much. At least they show the fretboards detail very good. I agree with everything you say about the white fretboards and I will admit that some lighting conditions cause problems at the 17th, 18th and 19th frets because of the combination of fretmarker colors and small size of them. Also, I will admit that this guitar was just as playable before I refinished it but I just prefer something that looks real nice. The chrome fretboards are about a $16.00 option on a new D10 Emmons LeGrande III and I think they are well worth it. I'm sorry Ricky had to spread it out so much to get the guitar photo posted but I certainly appreciate it.
Jerry
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Ricky Davis


From:
Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 1 Dec 2003 9:24 pm    
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There I think I got the pictures in there to veiw normal screen...yeee haaa.
Anyway...that's not the purpose here...as the purpose is what Jerry described as; now you can see the beauty of the chrome fretboards on a beautiful guitar...
Thank you Jerry for sharing your wonderful contibution to the Emmons push-pull legacy and the re-birth of tradition plays ON>
Ricky
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Jerry Roller


From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2003 7:24 pm    
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Thanks for your expertise Ricky. I would like to take it to the top so everyone who wanted to see the nice chrome Emmons fretboards as well as my project guitar that I am very proud of. After this I will let it drop on down and fade away. (The thread).
Not the guitar. It has not faded a bit in 3 years.
Jerry
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