E13 VS E13th Tuning for 8 string

[Ed McGee]

I'm interested in playing Western Swing and maybe some smooth Jazz. I have researched the various tunings by Leon McAuliffe and Don Helms and need clarification of the following.

E13 (high to low G# E C# B G# E D B) was used by Leon and John Ely of Asleep at the Wheel.

E13th (high to low E C# B G# F# D G# E) was used by Don Helms and Speedy West.

Is this two different tunings or a internet mistake? Which is better (easier) Any info would be welcome. Thanks, Ed

[Stephen Cowell]

You have the attributions reversed... on Leon, the bottom and top strings are E's.
I prefer the Leon, since only two strings are doubled... it's probably the harder tuning, but it has rewards.

[Todd Clinesmith]

Stephan has it right... you have the two reversed, and the Don Helms is easier but in my opinion does not have the rewards as Stephan put it.
I think for the true western swing sound the Leon tuning is best suited, especially if used as a second tuning to a C6 or A6.

[Jim Wilmoth]

I just started working on the Don Helms E13th. I'm a fan of the high G# because it creates a distinct sound compared to C6th (for me) and hopefully gives me more options.