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Topic: OMG! What a waste of an Emmons! |
David Higginbotham
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Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 6:52 pm |
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I think they also used this Emmons for a boat anchor! "Emmons D-20" It was either under water in a flood or it was left where it could stay wet. What a waste of such a fine instrument. 
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Ken Campbell
From:
Ferndale, Montana
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 7:14 pm
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| Omg. This breaks my heart. |
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Bill Sinclair
From:
Waynesboro, PA, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 7:54 pm
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| Wonder if it could have come out of that Nashville cartage company that flooded in 2010. "We do not have the history or know much about it." |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Larry Hamilton
From:
Amarillo,Tx
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 8:24 pm
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I bet if you send it to Lynn Stafford, he would have it looking like a brand new Emmons, wish I had the money just to see. I know he could. He's the master.
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Henry Matthews
From:
Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2014 8:54 pm
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Whoa, what a mess and who ever owns it must really be tall, lol
You are right about Lynn, he could make that guitar show room new looking.
Just saw the extra pics and that thing had to have underwater for six months or more. Looks like an 80's push pull. That guitar would take a lot of work to even make it presentable. Think I'll send a message and offer $500.
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D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 1:25 am
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| I'd like to see an undercarriage shot or two before casting it off as a "lost soul" |
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John Booth
From:
Columbus Ohio, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 4:25 am
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OH LAWD !
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 5:09 am
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| Nice patina. |
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Dick Sexton
From:
Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 5:10 am Wow...
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| It sure looks like it has been abused or neglected. I suspect there are thousands of instruments that have and maybe hundreds of pedals steels that have. It would be interesting to know the truth about this one, that started life all new and shiny. Look at the pedals and fret boards, this steel has been played and I'll bet led a wonderfully musical life. As said, in the right hands, it could sing again in all its glory. But at this price, it may be going through it's last throws of life. Surely a labor of love. That gem would only cost 100 of us, $30 each, if we were so inclined. Interesting thought, don't you think. |
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John Booth
From:
Columbus Ohio, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 5:48 am
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I'd go $30 to bring it back to life.
Who knows what stories this guitar could tell.
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Jeff Garden
From:
Center Sandwich, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 6:15 am
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| This was the original RUST-ler |
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Dick Wood
From:
Springtown Texas, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 6:45 am
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It does indicate Vintage in the description.
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Jim Cooley
From:
The 'Ville, Texas, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 7:03 am
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| Maybe it was a "rode" guitar; rode hard and put away wet. |
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Dick Sexton
From:
Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 7:12 am Vintage...
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| That is at least 10 years of wear on the A & B pedals, unless he wore sandpaper shoes. I'd guess 20. Be interesting to know. |
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Mike Wilson
From:
Mansfield, Ohio, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 7:45 am
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| I'd give that one a go, but not at that price. Be nice to see the bottom side of it. Ive worked on much worse. |
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Marco Schouten
From:
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 7:53 am
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A bit of cleaning, polishing the necks and new fretboards will do wonders.
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Henry Matthews
From:
Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 9:25 am
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That guitar will need more than polish and fret boards. Can't even imagine what the changer would look like. I bought one couple years ago that wasn't even in that bad of shape for $750 and it was a 66 model. Took almost 80 man hours of work to get it presentable.
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Henry Matthews
D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Brad Bechtel
From:
San Francisco, CA
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 9:47 am
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I would agree that this could certainly be one of the guitars ruined by the Nashville floods. It certainly looks like it's spent some time in a very wet location.
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 9:56 am
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Kind of sad, really.
That's not a hobbyist's case, and not original to the instrument, so I feel it was owned by a professional at one time. Obviously it was in a harsh environment for quite some time, and I'd think the Nashville flood or some other disaster might be involved.
A couple things I'd worry about not mentioned would be warping of the cabinet, and separation of the mica from the wood. And if the condition of the metal on the case and the topside of the guitar are any indication, the level of corrosion on the instrument would necessitate a total disassembly and cleaning/polishing of the mechanics. Most probably the interior of the case is trashed and would have to be replaced completely.
Just assembling a PP with brand new parts is a lot of work; when all the parts have to be cleaned and de-rusted individually, the man hours go up exponentially.
I'm only surmising what Lynn Stafford, Billy Knowles, or Mike Cass would charge for this work, but I'd bet even acquiring the instrument at a garage sale price would not be a bargain when the cost of the work would bring the final price up to where an clean, unharmed guitar would cost... or more. 
It'll either be a labor of love or a fool's errand for someone... or perhaps no one.
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 10:30 am
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I'd like to see pictures of the underside. Like Herb said, the changer probably needs to be completely disassembled and every part cleaned and polished and reassembled, it needs fretboards, re-flocking... Basically, every metal part on the guitar needs to be disassembled, cleaned, oiled, or replaced, the tuners, every rod, spring, and screw, the electronics. I'd say the current value of the guitar, as is, is about 1/2 of the asking price. It needs at least $1000 in labor and parts.
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Antolina
From:
Dunkirk NY
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 10:48 am
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All this at the bargain price of $2749. Believe it or don't, someone will buy it. 
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Bill C. Buntin
From:
Cleburne TX
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 11:02 am
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| I would give it a go also. It is pitiful and as Herb stated, kind of sad. Maybe we should collectively hit the seller with messages offering $800 or so? Maybe they would come off that price. It could be a guitar again. Who would give what for that guitar, honestly? It would be worth $3k plus in good condition, but a $1000 in parts and no telling how much time to get it there?? I wouldn't think a person could go much over $1200-1300 and it be worth while? |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 11:52 am
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I think Doug's estimate of $1000 for repairs is unrealistically low; from my experience in paying for guitar rebuilds by those expert in the craft, I'd double it.
There's probably stuff wrong with that guitar the photos don't show as well.
Then there's the flight case. Stripping the interior, in which is probably a universe of mold activity, and then installing a new interior is a job of at least a couple hundred bucks, assuming there's no water damage to the wood. So I'd estimate fixing the guitar with a case to "newish looking" condition at over 2 grand.
Guitars like this one sell for between 2750 and 3250 currently, depending on condition, color, availability of others on the market, etc. I personally wouldn't pay more than $750 MAXIMUM for that guitar, not that I'm in the market for a project like that; I already have more Emmonses than I need, including two 80's era PP's in good condition, plus some vintage oldies.
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My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2014 12:20 pm
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| Ahhhh! That'll buff right out! |
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