Mic Stand

Steve Schmidt · Post by **Steve Schmidt** » 18 May 2003 6:15 pm

Just wondering what alternatives there are for mic stands besides the traditional boom stand. I use an SM58 hanging out 2 feet on a boom. It is extremely tippy. 3 weeks ago our guitar player hooked it and down it went. Goes to show, you can drive nails with a 58. Is there any kind of clip on deal to attach to a leg on the steel, that wouldn't scratch up the steel leg?
Thanks for your help
Steve Schmidt
Ramsey, MN

Roger Crawford · Post by **Roger Crawford** » 18 May 2003 6:40 pm

Steve..I've never tried this for a vocal mic, but when I was doing the drum thing, I used a clamp fastened to cymbal stands for certain drums. Those clamps should work on steel legs as well. Check in the percussion section at your favorite music store.[This message was edited by Roger Crawford on 18 May 2003 at 07:41 PM.]

Danny Naccarato · Post by **Danny Naccarato** » 19 May 2003 12:56 pm

Years ago, I used a drum clamp attached to one of the front legs. Problem was the mic picking up mechanical noises from the steel...
If your stand is the 3-legged type, you can run one leg between the vol. pedal and pedal bar. You won't need as much throw from the stand to the mic. Also, use a goosneck in that scenario so the extension of the boom isn't hanging way out there....

Larry Bell · Post by **Larry Bell** » 19 May 2003 1:25 pm

What Danny describes is exactly what I use -- a 3-legged stand and a gooseneck. I wouldn't go for the mic mounted to the leg. Both my guitars transfer a LOT of the vibration to the legs -- all you have to do is strum across the strings and feel the vibration in the legs. It would also amplify pedal and changer noise.

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Tony LaCroix · Post by **Tony LaCroix** » 19 May 2003 1:26 pm

You could put the mic stand behind you.

Mylos Sonka · Post by **Mylos Sonka** » 19 May 2003 1:45 pm

Try wrapping a bunch of tape around the leg to dampen the vibration to the clamp holding the mic gooseneck to the leg of the guitar. It helped. what finally got it workng right was using a mic holder that was a "shock absorber" design-- kind of rubber springs so that no part of the mic was touching any metal, and the holder absorbed more shock. No more problems after that.

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Jim Eaton · Post by **Jim Eaton** » 19 May 2003 1:53 pm

If you use the "round base" model of ATLAS mike stand's, stop by a yard sale, get a 10 lb weight from a barbell set, slip it down over the stand so it rests on top of the base, and it will be plenty steady.
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Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 19 May 2003 2:46 pm

Yes, sometimes a long gooseneck works better than a boom. On an S-10, you might even be able to put the base of the stand behind the pedal bar. I've done that.

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Steve Schmidt · Post by **Steve Schmidt** » 19 May 2003 4:03 pm

I appreciate the suggestions. Due to the way we set up, the keyboard player is always to my immediate right. Sometimes it is extremely tight to look and find my tuning nuts in the event I have to tweek a raise or lower. I have been leaning toward the clamp attached to the front leg, however after your suggestions, Im not sure??

Lyle Bradford · Post by **Lyle Bradford** » 19 May 2003 4:10 pm

Why not a headset?

David Mullis · Post by **David Mullis** » 19 May 2003 7:09 pm

A buddy of mine built himself a little riser for him and his steel to sit on. There was some sort of round, threaded bracket mounted to the top of the riser that he screwed a mic stand with a boom into. There was no way for it to tip over since it was mounted to the riser. Pretty good idea, but, one more thing to tote around if you're not playing a house gig.

Michael Brebes · Post by **Michael Brebes** » 20 May 2003 8:00 am

My recommendations would be either a headset or, if you want to clamp to your steel leg, get a shockmount for your mic. That way the mechanical noise won't get up to the mic.

Buck Dilly · Post by **Buck Dilly** » 20 May 2003 10:27 am

What Jim Eaton said! I have done that for years for keys and steel.

Perry Hansen · Post by **Perry Hansen** » 20 May 2003 11:30 am

I use a Shure headset. Works great for me.

r johnson · Post by **r johnson** » 23 May 2003 3:07 am

I use an audiotechnica head set mike,available for around $80.00.
It works great for me. I carry it in plastic box in my seat.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 27 May 2003 3:48 pm

Why not a headset, you ask? Because, when I've had the displeasure of hearing players use them, I get really tired of hearing them talking, "clearing their throat", and coughing...into an open mike! When both hands are busy, it's hard to get to that "cut-out" button, so when you use a headset..."turning your head" has no effect, and all those unsightly "sounds" you could have spared the audience go right through the PA...at full volume.

That's why.

Here's a photo of the rig I use...an Atlas right-angle mike stand clamp (fastened to the front leg), and an 18" gooseneck. (The mike doesn't pick up the "mechanical" sounds of the steel...even with a regular mike clip.)

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Steve Schmidt · Post by **Steve Schmidt** » 28 May 2003 4:57 am

Thanks Donnie,
Thats what I'd like to try. Where did you get the Atlas right angle mic clamp? Are they available at Guitar Center? I guess thats why I was shying away from the headphone approach, you can't immediatly avoid the mic.
Steve

I found this on the net http://www.cpcomms.biz/mfr/gear/Atlas/SL11.1398.pdf It looks as though the CO-1B unit is the ticket. Another plus is that an 18" gooseneck will fit nicely in you steel case. One less piece to carry around.[This message was edited by Steve Schmidt on 28 May 2003 at 06:12 AM.][This message was edited by Steve Schmidt on 28 May 2003 at 06:14 AM.][This message was edited by Steve Schmidt on 28 May 2003 at 06:16 AM.]