push/pull maintenance

Larry Robbins · Post by **Larry Robbins** » 17 May 2003 12:12 pm

I have only used steels with all pull systems
so far.Have a chcnce to purchess a 80's Sho-Bud with p/p. How much extra maintenance do they need?It sure is a pretty thing,but I
dont need too many more headachs.Did a serch
but couldn't turn up too much.How about it Sho-Bud oweners,is it worth it?
Many Thanks
Larry

Bill Moore · Post by **Bill Moore** » 17 May 2003 12:48 pm

I'm no expert on them, but If it's an '80's model, it should be an all pull. Unless it's a Maverick, there're kind of like a push/pull, you tune them the same way. I'm sure if you mentioned the model you are looking at, some other, more knowledgeable formites will have more information.

chas smith · Post by **chas smith** » 17 May 2003 12:51 pm

Larry, I wasn't aware that Sho-Bud made a push/pull in the '80s, '70's or '60's, for that matter. Then again, I'm not an expert. I was always under the impression that, originally, Sho-Bud was modeled after the Bigsby, which was, essentially, an all-pull

Larry Robbins · Post by **Larry Robbins** » 17 May 2003 1:47 pm

Have not seen the guitar in person.And I also dont know anything about Sho~Bud guitars.I was going by what the music store
owener said.BTW he admits to not knowing
anything at all about steel guitar.took it in on trade.1980 ProII 8&2 he said a customer
told him he thought it was p/p.he's about a 10 hour drive from me and I was trying to find out what I could before makeing the trip.
thanks

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Larry Robbins
GFI-s 10
Morrell lap steel,Reagl 75 dobro and Marshall half stack(I know,I know)

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 17 May 2003 2:00 pm

Larry, you're being given wrong information. No such thing as a Pro-II push-pull. If its a 1980 its a Pro-II Custom. They are good guitars but need to be set up by a Sho-Bud expert after you got it. They are all pull.

Larry Robbins · Post by **Larry Robbins** » 17 May 2003 5:59 pm

Kevin,
thanks for the info.And thank you to the others who replied.If in good shape are they
worth 1,000 ?Once again,my thanks.
Larry

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Larry Robbins
GFI-s 10
Morrell lap steel,Reagl 75 dobro and Marshall half stack(I know,I know)

chas smith · Post by **chas smith** » 17 May 2003 9:58 pm

Just about any D-10 Sho-Bud in good shape is going to be worth $1K. I would expect to have to take the thing apart and clean everything, especially the changer, and do a lube job, including the pedal board. It's kind of a pain, but i just consider it to be part of the "bonding process". The chrome can be cleaned up with steel wool, the pedal board can be polished, if the paint isn't too bad it can be rubbed out and so on....

Marco Schouten · Post by **Marco Schouten** » 18 May 2003 12:20 am

For $1,000,- I would run and get it, if the guitar is in a decent condition.

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Steelin' Greetings
Marco Schouten
Sho-Bud Pro III Custom; Sho-Bud LLG; John Pearse bar; Emmons bar; Panther amp

Damir Besic · Post by **Damir Besic** » 18 May 2003 8:52 am

Sho~Bud Pro II for 1K...where at..let me know...no, don`t buy it it`s too much...I`ll take it...

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Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 18 May 2003 1:54 pm

Based on the sort of information you have posted so far that guitar could be anything and might be a real turd. Find somebody that knows steel around there to check it out.
2nd best thing to do would be to have a series of pics taken. Underside and everything.

Post the pics and then you can an answer that might have some meaning.

Bob [This message was edited by Bob Hoffnar on 18 May 2003 at 03:09 PM.]

Larry Robbins · Post by **Larry Robbins** » 19 May 2003 3:18 pm

Talked to someone who knows steel today in
the same town as the dealer.thanks to some
good friends in the business and a little
networking!Sho-Bud ProII, all pull,just like
you guys said!In decent shape too!w/case.
Guess who's going on a road trip!
Thanks to all who posted advice for me.
This forum has got to be the best!!
Larry

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Larry Robbins
GFI-s 10
Morrell lap steel,Reagl 75 dobro and Marshall half stack(I know,I know)

[This message was edited by Larry Robbins on 19 May 2003 at 04:21 PM.]