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Rate brands for pedal comfort with SOCKs... :)

Posted: 15 Nov 2014 7:15 pm
by Tom Gorr
No need for a poll, just rate your brand experiences.

(Edit: emphasis on pedal shape related comfort)

Of the steels I have the most familiarity with I would rate them:

Msa vintage xl: 9/10

Fessenden: 5/10 (otherwise a terrific guitar)

'74 Shobud (wide knurled curved): 6/10

Posted: 15 Nov 2014 7:43 pm
by Niels Andrews
Best is my S-12 Zum, the worst was my Milly.

Posted: 15 Nov 2014 8:01 pm
by Tom Gorr
Thanks Neils...note I changed my question from a worst/best to a rating...more informative I think.

Posted: 15 Nov 2014 9:14 pm
by Justin Griffith
Blanton guitars have the easiest smoothest pedal action that I've played. Some of the new guitars may be as good or better, but they don't intrest me much.

Posted: 17 Nov 2014 5:14 pm
by John Booth
Dekley S-10 ........8/10
Emmons SD-10 .......7/10
MSA (maverick) .....2/10

Posted: 17 Nov 2014 5:38 pm
by Ken Campbell
BMI S10 6/10
Sho-Bud Pro III 8/10
Emmons S10 P/P 10/10
Emmons D10 P/P 10/10

Posted: 18 Nov 2014 2:15 pm
by Henry Matthews
I tried playing in sock feet. I will try anything once if I think it is beneficial. That hurts like h***, even on guitars that I've had that have real easy pedals. Don't see how anyone can do that.

Any guitar 0-10

Posted: 18 Nov 2014 2:32 pm
by Erv Niehaus
Maybe instead of rating guitars, we should be rating stockings! :whoa:

Posted: 18 Nov 2014 3:47 pm
by Tom Gorr
Got so much tied up in steels, can only afford offshore walmart socks. :lol:

Posted: 18 Nov 2014 4:23 pm
by James Wolf
John Booth wrote:Dekley S-10 ........8/10
Emmons SD-10 .......7/10
MSA (maverick) .....2/10
Is your Dekley action really that soft? I have a pre slim S10 and my feet hurt just thinking about playing it in socks. Maybe one pedal at a time but A B rolling is out of the question on mine. I have a fessenden as well and I would agree with tom on 5/10. I think the slim pedals on the fessy would have a lot to do with that even though the action is decently soft.

Posted: 18 Nov 2014 4:46 pm
by chris ivey
probably any steel would be ok if you just ductape a big ol' cottonball to the top of each pedal.

Posted: 18 Nov 2014 5:02 pm
by Tom Gorr
I'm thinking more on pedal shape than action itself, although it makes bad pedal shape less painful...

Posted: 18 Nov 2014 6:14 pm
by Henry Matthews
If its pedal shape, then the old Emmons push pulls would have the flattest surface to be comfortable to. Stocking feet.

Are we talking about stockings or socks? Don't know any men that wear stockings.

Posted: 18 Nov 2014 6:17 pm
by Tom Gorr
Hahahahah....well Christmas is on its way...ok....Socks it is....so says wikipedia...(surprised didn't get more female input on this topic...)

Posted: 18 Nov 2014 6:59 pm
by Edward Rhea
My Sho~Bud plays ultra-soft, but my Marlen is tough!
Sho~Bud 9/10
Marlen 2/10

I'm not tenderfooted...I play'em both barefooted or socked

Posted: 19 Nov 2014 2:40 am
by Bob Carlucci
I have played in stocking feet since I started back in the 70's.. To me Nothing is more comfortable than an MSA.. Just the pedal shape makes them easy on the soles of your feet.
I had a Dekley, and it was awful.. good steel, but the D shaped pedal felt like razor wire.
Could barely play it..
The Fessy I had for a short while was also quite uncomfortable

Marlen pedals are large and flat and my Marlen plays ultra soft. so that is also super easy to play in socks...

Carters are ok, Bud with small pedals are ok, IF they are set up "soft"...
Large pedal Buds, are a problem for me.. Some are ok, others are pretty uncomfortable when playing with socks..

My Fender cable steels were very comfortable to play as well.

If I put a pair of very soft thin moccasins on, I have a lot less problem with pedal feel with any pedal steel. bob

Posted: 19 Nov 2014 3:48 am
by Stephen Kuester
Nashville ltd (riittenberry era) 10/10 suitable for a queen, really.
Fessenden 7/10

Posted: 19 Nov 2014 4:27 am
by Per Berner
I promise you guys: NOTHING beats the Swedish AWH/AVM steels for playing comfort. Slightly curved pedals with rubber cladding (probably sourced from some manufacturer of industrial machinery), ultra comfortable to play in socks or barefoot. Wish I'd never sold it...

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Posted: 20 Nov 2014 8:07 am
by Roger Francis
My Ritt has ribbed pedals and my Rains has smooth pedals but i play in socks every day at home with no problems, if it bothered me i would put a shoe on that foot, so i guess 10/10.

Posted: 20 Nov 2014 10:07 am
by Scott Swartz
I play only in socks, even on 4 hour gigs, but I have removed the sharp edges from my pedals.

It is very easy to round the pedal edges with a file for better comfort, a 1/16 or 3/32 radius is plenty.

I have done this on my Williams (it has the extruded style pedals), and here is a pic of my Fender 400 showing the concept.


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Note the pedal corners are both rounded and the top to sides are radiused, so you end up with a spherical surface on the corners of the pedal.

Posted: 20 Nov 2014 10:26 am
by Mark Nix
I play mine in socked feet because my legs are too darn long to wear shoes. I do notice MUCH more control when playing in socks than with shoes or boots.

Posted: 20 Nov 2014 10:42 am
by Patrick Strain
I always play in socks (or barefoot in the summer). I can't feel the pedals when I'm wearing shoes. I've been playing a Carter D10 for the past few years and have no complaints.

Posted: 20 Nov 2014 11:17 am
by Lane Gray
Hank Ruf plays his Derby in stocking feet.

Posted: 20 Nov 2014 12:29 pm
by Dave Grafe
My '74 PP has wide, smooth, close-spaced pedals, the most comfortable of the many guitars I've played for the unshod foot

Posted: 21 Nov 2014 11:27 am
by Alan Brookes
I guess my mind works differently to most members. When I read the title my mind immediately raced ahead to what type of socks would fit over pedals. They would have to be small ones. Maybe some of those baby socks that we get left with after the baby grows out of them. It would certainly prevent the guitar from suffering from cold pedals. :\