Steel Guitars Don't Have Fretboards or Machine Heads

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Steel Guitars Don't Have Fretboards or Machine Heads

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In days of yore the terminology was easy. Guitars, banjos, mandolines, lutes, citterns, etc. had fretboards. Violins, 'cellos, double basses, etc. had fingerboards. As a caveat to that, I should mention that, during the Middle Ages, guitars and lutes were built without frets, and the frets were made by the player typing strings around the neck.

Along comes the steel guitar and the terminology gets confused. Early steel guitars were ordinary guitars modified with nut risers, or with new, higher nuts and bridges, but they retained the frets, as do most resonator guitars and Weissenborns today. But modern steel guitars usually have printed position markers, more akin to rulers than fretboards. So they don't have fretboards. More like violins, they have fingerboards.

To add even more to the confusion, some steel guitars are built with frets for appearance sake, although they will never be used.

So what is it, fretboard or fingerboard? :?: :\ :?: :\

A similar thing happened to the peghead. In days of yore all string instruments used friction pegs, so that end of the instrument was known as the peghead, usually because it was decorated with a head carved into the end. Then someone started putting wire strings on instruments and they wouldn't stay in tune with friction pegs. The first solution, as is found on harps and pianos to this day, is the rest pin. A head holding the pins would then be a pinhead, and indeed this term is still used for abuse. Then came the geared tuners. So that end of the instrument became the machine head. But technically speaking, a Flamenco guitar has a peghead, whilst a steel-strung guitar has a machine head. All steel guitars have machine heads, except that that end of the steel guitar is not a head. I have yet to see a steel guitar with a head carved into the end. :)

Of course, some early steel guitars put the mechanism at the other end of the instrument, something that often confuses eBay sellers when they take photos. of MultiKords backwards. :lol:

...then what about keyless steel guitars? :\
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neither...they're position markers.
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Alan , You have far too much time on your hands !! Go get a parttime job at McDonalds or Walmart and you will lead a happier life !! ?? Maybe ?? I still enjoy your posts , no matter what !! olde geeze AKA Eddie "C"
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Post by Alan Brookes »

No, Eddie, after 45 years in the slave market I've had enough of working, commuting and worrying. Now I can sit back at my computer and let my mind go wild. :lol: ;-)
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Post by Stuart Legg »

I thought everything on a PSG had the same name.
All I ever hear Bo call anything on his PSG is "#%*@#*% piece of #*%#. :lol:
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Post by Richard Sinkler »

Hmmm.... And why do we care about this?
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Post by Barry Blackwood »

So what is it, fretboard or fingerboard?
Since fingers do not touch it, it can't be called a fingerboard, right? :? :\
I think chris ivey has the answer.
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Post by Donny Hinson »

I think we can still call it a fretboard, even if it doesn't have actual frets. After all, it does have the image or appearance of frets on it. :cry:

Mind you, not to skit, but you seem naffed off on colloquial english?
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Post by Brint Hannay »

In my experience, the most common term for the part of a standard guitar (electric or acoustic steel-string, maybe not classical or flamenco?) where the tuning apparati are mounted is "headstock".

"Machine head", in my experience, refers to an individual geared tuning gizmo for one string.

The term I most often see for the structure on a PSG to which the machine heads (as defined above) are mounted is "keyhead".

Keyless PSG, who knows?
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Post by Stephen Gambrell »

"Machine Head" was an old Deep Purple album, wasn't it?
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Post by Larry Bell »

I thought it was a colloquialism for a mechanical engineer
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Post by Mark Eaton »

So when showing someone how to play a song is it a good idea to say, "now put your bar on the 8th position marker" or "now go to to the 8th fingerboard marker" as opposed to simply saying "now go to the 8th fret."

No - it would be a bad idea.

Maybe the bigger question is: how do I stop myself from participating in topics like this? :?
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i concede. you win, mark.
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Mark Eaton wrote:...Maybe the bigger question is: how do I stop myself from participating in topics like this? :?
The same way as I stop myself from raising them ...spend less time on the internet. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I often ask myself what I would be doing with all that time I waste on an activity that wasn't available to me twenty years ago. :\ :\ :\
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chris ivey wrote:i concede. you win, mark.
it wasn't a contest Chris - I don't think I'm going out on much of a limb in guessing that if you are showing someone how to play something you don't refer to it with a pair of words consisting of five syllables either when the word "fret" would get the job done.
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Post by John Billings »

It's a two dimensional fret! Alan is from a different dimension! 8^)
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Post by Stuart Legg »

Don't fret about it!!!
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I don't. :D
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Alan Brookes wrote: I often ask myself what I would be doing with all that time I waste on an activity that wasn't available to me twenty years ago. :\ :\ :\
I have to go back more than twenty years before I can escape the e-communication. Twenty years ago was a time when I had a lot more free time, and much of it was spent on BBS and usenet groups. Those were the closest thing to something like SGF for that era. :wink:
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