4th pedal on E9th S10

Lonnie Terry · Post by **Lonnie Terry** » 15 Mar 2003 8:50 am

I,m surprised there has not been to many reply's to this topic I,m still wanting to get a general consensus on the pro's and cons of adding this extra pedal, so come on guys (correction) Ladies & Gents lets have a little input I'm sure I'm not the only one over the years that has pondered this issue.

May Saint Patrick Smile upon you

Lonnie T

Larry Bell · Post by **Larry Bell** » 15 Mar 2003 9:25 am

Adding a pedal just for the sake of adding a pedal is NOT a good idea, in my opinion. Adding a string pull or set of them because you see a musical need is a much better reason. There are several changes often used on pedals that could be added, but, unless you have a good idea of how those changes work and whether they help you with your musical expression, it's just a hunk of metal. If you could give us an idea of musically what you want to do we might be of more service.

It's very easy to get hung up on how many of this or that you have or, from a more general perspective, considering the PHYSICAL aspects more than the MUSICAL.

I hope I'm not being too blunt and certainly don't intend to come off that way. I LOVE extra pedals and levers (as you can see from my setups if you go to my website) -- I use eight pedals and eight levers on a single neck guitar myself, but I never put anything on my guitar before I have a very good idea of what it will do for me. If I won't use it in the course of a 3 or 4 hour gig, it won't stay on my axe very long. Have you thought about it from this perspective?

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C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 15 Mar 2003 10:22 am

Profound words of wisdom Larry.

There is NO more real reason to have less pedals and/or knee levers than MORE pedals and/or knee levers (excluding what one hears and wants to do). In a word; have as few or as many as YOU are comfortable with. Regardless of what ANY one else has, or more correctly, "what any one says".

There simply is NO reason to set an arbitrary minimum or maximum limit on how many pedals and/or knee levers a guitar should have. Jerry Byrd has NONE. Jimmy Crawford has 17 zillion

Both are awesome players; and both are content. That's the "proof of the pudding".

carl

Joe Miraglia · Post by **Joe Miraglia** » 15 Mar 2003 11:34 am

I also believe the tuning you choose to play should be comfortable for you.I don't use the main stream C6th. I tune to a A6th./E6th. I know musically I am limiting myself by not using the standard C6 tuning. But using the setup I have I can get more than when I try the C6. When it comes to adding or subtracting extra pedals, the first thing that comes to mind is some of those super non-pedal steel players who seem to have it all when you listen to them. Joe

Larry Bell · Post by **Larry Bell** » 15 Mar 2003 11:37 am

Joe, my old buddy, I know exactly what you mean.
Can YOU spell 'Tom Morrell'??????
(and lots of others, but the Wolf certainly comes to mind)

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2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 2000 Fessenden S-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 16 Mar 2003 5:30 pm

If you play the "Day" setup, I'd suggest lowering both B's to Bb with the 4th.