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Godfrey Arthur · Post by **Godfrey Arthur** » 5 Sep 2014 9:10 pm

Anyone know who dragged bar on this?

Why Can't We All Just Get A Long Neck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy8tIA50YM4

I looked for discog and came up nada. Maybe someone on the list knows?

Ken Campbell · Post by **Ken Campbell** » 5 Sep 2014 9:40 pm

Looks like it might have been Paul Franklin according to Allmusic.com

Godfrey Arthur · Post by **Godfrey Arthur** » 5 Sep 2014 10:22 pm

Ken Campbell wrote:Looks like it might have been Paul Franklin according to Allmusic.com

Ken thanks. I went to Allmusic but couldn't access track info for some reason.

I had surmised it was Paul's style comping but wasn't sure.

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 6 Sep 2014 8:42 am

as much as hank tries to be a drugged out drunken fool, this is a cute clever song.
he's actually presented some real good solid country on certain albums over his career.

Brett Day · Post by **Brett Day** » 6 Sep 2014 8:56 am

I've seen credits a few years back, and it's Paul Franklin

Godfrey Arthur · Post by **Godfrey Arthur** » 6 Sep 2014 9:15 am

chris ivey wrote:as much as hank tries to be a drugged out drunken fool, this is a cute clever song.
he's actually presented some real good solid country on certain albums over his career.

Yup Chris, having the yoke of being Hank Williams Jr. he's found a niche for himself. Falling off that mountain was no easy feat while climbing the one his Dad left behind. Wonder what senior would say. Your Cheatin' Heart would be taking on a whole other sentiment in today's climate.

I like the song, well produced and the session guys are spot on resulting in some classic but interesting rhythms, call/response. Nothing less from country royalty. To think this came out in 2003, its jab has not waned.

Les Cargill · Post by **Les Cargill** » 6 Sep 2014 9:16 am

Those records Hank II did with Jimmy Bowen producing were top shelf at the time, and still hold up reasonably well.

Godfrey Arthur · Post by **Godfrey Arthur** » 6 Sep 2014 9:29 am

Brett Day wrote:I've seen credits a few years back, and it's Paul Franklin

Thanks Brett. That nails it further with the Allmusic info.

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 6 Sep 2014 10:29 am

That's a stupid song and not cleaver at all. "why don't we just all get a long "Neck"...really; seriously...
Alcohol has killed as many people as war.
"Getting a long" is a great idea. But that will NOT happen with all countries in this world....especially everyone getting drunk together..ha..
Have we run out of ideas for good songs; that we have to write about "shaving legs" "flip flops"..."longnecks/beer"...etc....?? How about live a real life and you can then right a real song; a real song about substance; something that means something revealing to the soul.
Ricky

Godfrey Arthur · Post by **Godfrey Arthur** » 6 Sep 2014 11:02 am

Cowboy poetry, tongue-in-cheek. Appeal to the common clay yet be cryptic so as not to raise the ire of the PTB.
That the man already got canned for his later stabs:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/0 ... 98033.html

Shows he's on a trail to a watch list.

Not easy being famous and opinionated these days.

Rich Peterson · Post by **Rich Peterson** » 6 Sep 2014 8:18 pm

Ricky Davis wrote:That's a stupid song and not cleaver at all. "why don't we just all get a long "Neck"...really; seriously...
Alcohol has killed as many people as war.
"Getting a long" is a great idea. But that will NOT happen with all countries in this world....especially everyone getting drunk together..ha..
Have we run out of ideas for good songs; that we have to write about "shaving legs" "flip flops"..."longnecks/beer"...etc....?? How about live a real life and you can then right a real song; a real song about substance; something that means something revealing to the soul.
Ricky

I agree. Resolving our differences is going to require some sober listening to and respecting each other's views, values and feelings. But this topic is drifting into politics, which is a no-no here.

Godfrey Arthur · Post by **Godfrey Arthur** » 6 Sep 2014 8:55 pm

Les Cargill wrote:Those records Hank II did with Jimmy Bowen producing were top shelf at the time, and still hold up reasonably well.

Thanks for bringing this up. One can say that about much of Bowen's work. Although probably incomplete, looking at Jimmy's discog, I remember many of those projects he's been associated with even back to Dino Desi and Billy. Impressive.

Hank ll produced this song/album himself with Doug Johnson according to the info I have found.

I am curious as to who the other musicians on this track were. Oddly, there are no photos of the rear of the album to be found so far. lots of fronts though, let alone discog write ups that I can find at least.

Les Cargill · Post by **Les Cargill** » 7 Sep 2014 9:00 am

Godfrey Arthur wrote:
Les Cargill wrote:Those records Hank II did with Jimmy Bowen producing were top shelf at the time, and still hold up reasonably well.
Thanks for bringing this up. One can say that about much of Bowen's work. Although probably incomplete, looking at Jimmy's discog, I remember many of those projects he's been associated with even back to Dino Desi and Billy. Impressive.

Hank ll produced this song/album himself with Doug Johnson according to the info I have found.

I am curious as to who the other musicians on this track were. Oddly, there are no photos of the rear of the album to be found so far. lots of fronts though, let alone discog write ups that I can find at least.

Most of Hank's albums have a musician listing on their Wikipedia page. This one didn't.

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 7 Sep 2014 9:49 am

Ricky Davis wrote:
That's a stupid song and not cleaver at all. "why don't we just all get a long "Neck"...really; seriously...
Alcohol has killed as many people as war.
"Getting a long" is a great idea. But that will NOT happen with all countries in this world....especially everyone getting drunk together..ha..
Have we run out of ideas for good songs; that we have to write about "shaving legs" "flip flops"..."longnecks/beer"...etc....?? How about live a real life and you can then right a real song; a real song about substance; something that means something revealing to the soul.
Ricky

I agree. Resolving our differences is going to require some sober listening to and respecting each other's views, values and feelings. But this topic is drifting into politics, which is a no-no here.

I agree as well.. IMO, this song only appeals to the well known stereotypes that I've always felt made up the majority of Hank Jr.'s fan base..

Bill Moran · Post by **Bill Moran** » 7 Sep 2014 12:40 pm

Godfrey Arthur wrote:Cowboy poetry, tongue-in-cheek. Appeal to the common clay yet be cryptic so as not to raise the ire of the PTB.
That the man already got canned for his later stabs:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/0 ... 98033.html

Shows he's on a trail to a watch list.

Not easy being famous and opinionated these days.

LOL

As it has turned out Hank Jr was correct !

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 7 Sep 2014 9:15 pm

Years ago, I was gigging somewhere, and during a break, someone played a Jr. song on the jukebox. The lyrics, from beginning to ending, were nothing but a collection of stupid stereotypical catch phrases. The song was stunningly dumb! He lost me then and there! I felt like I lost IQ points just hearing it!

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 7 Sep 2014 9:42 pm

agree with all this but maybe i'm just getting older and stupiderer...i found it laughably entertaining...his continuing talent for turning the topical catch phrase into another beer drinking song.
at least he's consistant.

Steve Green · Post by **Steve Green** » 8 Sep 2014 2:12 am

John Billings wrote:Years ago, I was gigging somewhere, and during a break, someone played a Jr. song on the jukebox. The lyrics, from beginning to ending, were nothing but a collection of stupid stereotypical catch phrases. The song was stunningly dumb! He lost me then and there! I felt like I lost IQ points just hearing it!

I came to this same realization when listening to tracks from his newest album Old School New Rules. Track 7 is entitled "The Cow Turd Blues", and contains the line:

"Never kick a cow turd on a hot day,
'Cause you might get some poo on your pants leg."

I wondered how someone who had once written and/or recorded such beautiful songs as "All For The Love of Sunshine" and "Eleven Roses", could morph into someone who writes and/or records this garbage.

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 8 Sep 2014 4:28 am

He lost me decades ago. Even Jimmy Martin never got so drunk he couldn't remember the words to his songs, or get them out.
If you're gonna drink like that, kindly have the decency to take the Hiram/Winehouse/Hendrix exit. And be quick about it.

Dustin Rhodes · Post by **Dustin Rhodes** » 8 Sep 2014 4:44 am

Lane Gray wrote: If you're gonna drink like that, kindly have the decency to take the Hiram/Winehouse/Hendrix exit. And be quick about it.

This is just about stupid enough to have come out of the mouth of Jr. himself.

Bobby Hearn · Post by **Bobby Hearn** » 8 Sep 2014 5:32 am

A little Bosyphilis goes a long way these days

Godfrey Arthur · Post by **Godfrey Arthur** » 8 Sep 2014 5:47 am

â€œI never met a man that I didn't like.â€

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 8 Sep 2014 7:03 am

i can't believe i'm defending hank, jr...but...
i guess you'd expect something waaayyy deeper than
'hey hey good lookin'
whatcha got cookin'
how's about cookin' somethin up with meeee'..??

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 8 Sep 2014 7:45 am

And McCartney/ Lennon gave us U Wanna Hold Your Hand while also giving us Til There Was You and Things We Said Today

David Cubbedge · Post by **David Cubbedge** » 8 Sep 2014 8:09 am

wow, can't believe the amount of disrespect he gets here....

I just saw Hank with Jamey Johnson and despite my previous experience in the late 80s of a Jr. show being bad, this one was not only excellent, but Hank had me hanging on just about every word he said. Lots of references to his dad in the show, all very compelling. I understand a lot more about Hank Jr. and what his life, especially early life, was all about. I'm not a beer-drinker and I don't hell raise, but there's a reason why songs of his are so popular. I can cut him some slack.....

BTW, there were two great pedal steel players on stage as well - one for each act (Jamey's played a few songs with Hank), wish I knew who they were!!!