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E9/B6 on Double-Raise, Double-Lower 12-String

Posted: 12 Feb 2003 9:48 pm
by Nick Anderson
Please look at the following tuning from the Carter site . . .
http://www.steelguitar.com/askbud/askbud19.htm

Can anyone please explain to me how to simulate Pedal 6?

I don't understand, "The Pedal 6 equivalent is acheived by engaging LKR, while releasing RKL."

Am I missing it?

Any help with this would be outstanding!

Thanks in advance,
Nick

Posted: 12 Feb 2003 10:02 pm
by Pete Burak
There's a typo.

It should say RKR instead of RKL.

RKR puts you into the 6th mode by lowering E's to Eb (and D# to C#).

LKR gives you a D on string 8, and (by releasing RKR) an E on string 4 (P6).

The second string change on LKR is your D# to D lower in E9th mode.

So LKR can be used in both E9th and B6th (as pretty much any change on any pedal/lever can be, on an S12U).

This looks like a nice setup!
The "reduced instruction set" if you will. Image<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Pete Burak on 12 February 2003 at 10:03 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 12 Feb 2003 10:11 pm
by Nick Anderson
Pete,

You da man!

Thanks, perfectly clear!

Nick

Posted: 12 Feb 2003 11:10 pm
by Jim Smith
You lose the D note though (C# in this case) when you emulate the 6th pedal with this setup.

Posted: 15 Feb 2003 10:23 am
by Nick Anderson
OK, I've got one more question.

For the tuning shown . . .
http://www.steelguitar.com/askbud/askbud19.htm

. . . does anyone see a change where I might need a split.

Perhaps string 4?

Thanks again for all your help!

Nick

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MSA S-12

Posted: 15 Feb 2003 2:44 pm
by Pete Burak
The most common one that comes to my mind is string 5.
You raise it to C#, and lower it to C with LKV.
So the "split" allows you to tune both the C note (A+LKV), and the Bb note (LKV), independantly of each other.