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Out of tune

Posted: 6 Feb 2003 3:10 pm
by Leslie Ehrlich
My steel goes out of tune after it's been hauled around in its case, and even if I leave it set up and it's been sitting unplayed for a few days it still goes out of tune. I'm just assuming it does that because it's an older guitar. Is there anyone with a newer steel that has similar problems?

Posted: 6 Feb 2003 4:29 pm
by Gene H. Brown
You know that's odd, cause when I bought my steel a couple of years ago, it was in tune, but seems like I've had to tune it at least every month or so since then.

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If You Keep Pickin That Thing, It'll Never Heal!
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Posted: 6 Feb 2003 5:44 pm
by Billy Easton
Leslie;
Could it be temperature changes? Such as, you tune the guitar on the job, put it in your car/truck, drive home, put it in the house, set it up, etc. The temperature changes cause the metal parts including the strings to expand and contract. This may be your explanation. How old is your guitar?

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Billy Easton
Casa Grande, AZ
Southwestern Steel Guitar Association



Posted: 6 Feb 2003 6:45 pm
by Donny Hinson
Well, after all, it does get awfully cold up there, doesn't it? Yeah, I guess <u>everything</u> up there in Saskatoon kinda shrinks as soon as you take your hands off of it! Image

Posted: 6 Feb 2003 7:32 pm
by Ray Montee
George "Keoki" Lake explained it was from both the extreme cold temperatures but also as a result of the banging around it gets on the dog sled.

Posted: 6 Feb 2003 7:50 pm
by George Rout
Hey you southerners....where I live in Canada is equal to Northern California!!!!

This is peach pickin' country, and the name of the band I play Dobro with is The Peach Pickers!!!

Geo

Posted: 6 Feb 2003 10:49 pm
by John Steele
Greetings from tne coldest capital city on earth, Ottawa.
I also play a bolt-on, which in combination with the geographic thing entitles me to play out of tune all the time!
-John

Posted: 7 Feb 2003 7:37 am
by Erv Niehaus
I always play for several minutes before I tune my steel. Just to warm up the strings. I read a story one time that Buddy Emmons used to carry a hair dryer with him and warmed up the undercarriage and etc. before he started playing.
Uff-Da!

Posted: 7 Feb 2003 8:34 am
by Emmett Roch
The hairdryer works---I always take one on the road during cold weather. Anyone who has seen me without my hat knows that's ALL I need it for...

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Posted: 7 Feb 2003 8:55 am
by Gene Jones
In all of my 50 years of playing, I have never hauled a steel guitar anywhere, or left it languishing in my music room for any length of time, that it DIDN'T need to be tuned before I started playing it! www.genejones.com

Posted: 7 Feb 2003 9:08 am
by Jim Smith
If your steel doesn't fit snugly in its case and especially if the tuning keys rest on the bottom, it will go out of tune very easily.

My 30+ year old Dekley's case has end blocks that keep the whole guiar suspended above the bottom. I very rarely have to touch up any strings before playing. I check that it's in tune with itself before the gig starts, and then touch it up with the tuner after the first set. It very rarely needs any adjustment then either. Image

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Jim Smith jimsmith94@attbi.com
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Posted: 8 Feb 2003 10:37 am
by Ray Montee
Hey there George Rout..........it's been rumored that your band wears little outfits with red blazers, blue trousers with a gold stripe down each leg, topped off by a flat brimmed "Smokey Bear Hat". Any truth to that? Look out for the rays while outside basking in that California like sunshine.

Posted: 8 Feb 2003 10:59 am
by Jerry Roller
When you first set your guitar up, check your tuner then rub the heel of your hand sorta briskly up and down the strings one end to the other about three times then recheck. You can do this a lot of times when you first set up and be very close to pitch til the guitar gets to normal room temp. This might allow you to only tune once instead of two or three times.
Jerry

Posted: 8 Feb 2003 9:19 pm
by Kenny Dail
I would also recommend that you "dance" on all the floor pedals and kneew levers to stretch them to a "playing" condition before tuning.

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kd...and the beat goes on...


Posted: 8 Feb 2003 11:25 pm
by Bob Hayes
I used to carry a "Heating Pad" with me to warm it up when I was playing in "Cold Country" and that's not a band!!!! That's geographic. A hair dryer works....