Sdf Tone Bars

Steven Gunder · Post by **Steven Gunder** » 6 Aug 2014 12:11 pm

STEVE GUNDER'S SPECIALTY DESIGN AND FABRICATION
TOPEKA, KS 785-608-0207 stevescg82@aol.com
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SDF TONE BARS
OVER 50 BARS IN STOCK
FREE SHIPPING IN USA

TITANIUM G6 -- $110.00 Polished

STAINLESS 17-4 -- #65.00 Polished

BRASS 464 -- $65.00 Polished or Plated with
Hard Chrome

STEEL (STRESSED) 1144 $60.00 Hard Chromed

ALUMINUM 7075 T6 $60.00 Polished & Anodized

Standard Bars: 3.25" and 3.75" in length
7/8" and 1.00" in diameter

ALL BARS ARE VIBRATION STRESSED RELIEVED
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CUSTOM BARS, I WILL MAKE WHAT YOU WANT

TAPERED BARS, NO PROBLEM

POWDER COATED BARS, ADD $8.00 PER BAR

LET ME QUOTE YOUR CUSTOM BARS

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Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 6 Aug 2014 2:16 pm

He brought those over to me last week.
The Ti surprised me with its tone, and it wasn't polished (maybe Monday I can try a polished one- HINT)
The brass is an extra-hard alloy (or maybe it gets hard from the treatment), and sounds REALLY good: can't wait to try the chromed brass.
The aluminum has a decent tone, and (as you'd expect) a shorter sustain. I plan to try it with my Bradshaw/Dunlop reso pedal, since TIFKADÂ¹ doesn't sustain like a steel.

Â¹That Instrument Formerly Known As Dobro

Carl Williams · Post by **Carl Williams** » 6 Aug 2014 2:52 pm

Steven, it would help if you could post some pictures of the finished product. Good luck...Carl

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 6 Aug 2014 2:57 pm

Steve, if you bring some Monday, I'll snap some pics

Steven Gunder · Post by **Steven Gunder** » 8 Aug 2014 10:30 am

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Dave Kolars · Post by **Dave Kolars** » 21 Aug 2014 10:29 am

Can you list the weights of the various bars? Thanks! DK

Steven Gunder · Post by **Steven Gunder** » 22 Aug 2014 11:20 am

Picture of standard bars, left to right:

1) Aluminum

2) Stainless Steel

3) Hard Chromed Brass

4) Polished Brass

5) Hard Chromed Steel

6) Titanium

7) Powder Coat Steel

8) Bright Chrome Steel

Weights

Aluminum - 3 3/8 X 7/8 (2.8 oz)
3 3/8 X 1 (3.9 oz)
3 3/4 X 7/8 (3.4 oz)
3 3/4 X 1 (4.3 oz)

Stainless Steel - 3 3/8 X 7/8 (8.3 oz)
3 3/8 X 1 (N/A)
3 3/4 X 7/8 (9.7 oz)
3 3/4 X 1 (N/A)

Titanium - 3 3/8 X 7/8 (4.6 oz)
3 3/8 X 1 (6.2 oz)
3 3/4 X 7/8 (5.5 oz)
3 3/4 X 1 (7.1 oz)

Brass - 3 3/8 X 7/8 (9.0)
3 3/8 X 1 (N/A) Add 2 Tenths
3 3/4 X 7/8 (10.4) if Plated
3 3/4 X 1 (10.7)

Powder Coat Steel - 3 3/8 X 7/8 (8.6 oz)
3 3/8 X 1 (N/A)

Hard Chrome Steel - 3 3/8 X 7/8 (8.5)
3 3/8 X 1 (N/A)
3 3/4 X 7/8 (9.1)
3 3/4 X 1 (N/A)

All N/A Weights will be available soon.

Watch for pics of some of my custom bars.

David Mason · Post by **David Mason** » 23 Aug 2014 4:24 pm

Several weeks back, I spied some rather odd "Miron" bars on E-bay - I "had" to buy the Epiphone steel to get the bars!

A few people asked me if they could get one of them, but I need to keep a few of them, I think there are a few refinements to the design that I want to try. But I sold my soul to the dentist (temporarily) and until I pay it off I don't really have the resources for prototyping... anyway, Mr. Gunder can make bars like these. If you've ever tried to search out an old grooved Carter bar, you know how hard that is. I could get these specs to Mr. Gunter, or even my (so far untested) newer idea. I just can't dig in yet, I've been out-of-debt since 1999 or so, and it JUST BUGS ME to owe anybody so the tooth fairy goes first.

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 25 Aug 2014 11:46 am

I'm getting ready to video a shootout/demo of six of his bars, he brought me some over and I'm quite impressed. I like three of the six a bit better than the others, but I no longer have use for the rest of my collection (Except my one sitar bar: I may ask for one of those in either the stainless or the hard chrome-plated brass).
These are NICE bars

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 26 Aug 2014 3:11 am

I tried out several yesterday and made a video. As Donny pointed out, there wasn't much difference to the ears. But there was to the PLAYER.
I sounded like me on 5 out of 6, and almost sounded like me on the anodized Al.
BUT, it was easier and more pleasant to sound like me with those bars than the Ernie Ball and Jim Dunlops I HAD been using.

Steven Gunder · Post by **Steven Gunder** » 15 Sep 2014 7:31 am

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 17 Sep 2014 11:06 am

I tried out the powder coated one the other day, I liked it. Nice and slick, good tone.
Also used it on a Kay M-1

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 24 Sep 2014 9:50 am

I A/Bd the powder coat against the rest of the family at the gig I played last Saturday.
It has a tone similar to the chromed brass, and felt the slickest of all of them.
When I heard about powder coated bars, I thought the very idea was silly. But it works well. It's pretty cool.

Dave Kolars · Post by **Dave Kolars** » 25 Sep 2014 10:51 am

Lane, you made a video? Is it on-line yet? DK

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 25 Sep 2014 11:07 am

First, I thought I'd pass along that Steve will do them as Sitar bars; I'm having him grind a flat on my stainless, and I wish I'd thought of it for the brass
Then, Dave asked:

Dave Kolars wrote:Lane, you made a video? Is it on-line yet? DK

Yup. About a month ago.
Donny Hinson pointed out that they sound similar.
They do indeed, when I listen either to the original video or the youtube-compressed version.
While I sound like me on all of them, it seems easier and more pleasing to sound like me on the brass and two chromed bars.
When I shot the video I did not yet have a powder coated bar. It surprised me in that it sounded much like the brass. It's quite good. And the brass wants occasional polishing to keep the pretty on (my fingers turn it grubby).
Here's the video
http://youtu.be/--1I9UOHISU

Steven Gunder · Post by **Steven Gunder** » 7 Oct 2014 10:49 am

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Michael Hillman · Post by **Michael Hillman** » 20 Oct 2014 9:00 pm

Hey Steve, great to visit with you about our common pursuit of providing great quality bars to the steel guitar community, I'll look forward to hearing from you in the near future - you have a wealth of knowledge on the fabrication side, Best Regards, Michael Hillman

Steven Gunder · Post by **Steven Gunder** » 13 Nov 2014 7:16 pm

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