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I bought an Emmons SD10 from a guy about 10 years ago. He told me he bought it new in 1987.

The serial # is 2830 DST, (at least that's the only number I can find on it).

I love playing it and some folks tell me it sounds great but I don't know very much about Push/Pull and All Pull, etc,.

Can anyone tell me about this guitar?

Randy-if the guitar was purchased in 1987 it is likely an Emmons Legrande-the push/pulls were being phased out by 1984 and the Legrande all pull was first available in about 1983 (mine was serial 092L then) even though they were first advertised in 1980-if I am correct in this-the earliest models of the Legrande had the short keyhead and the larger (visable through the pillars) changer axle-then the axle was made smaller and was not visable-then they went back to the longer keyhead like on the push/pull originals-which I believe was at about that time that they named it Lashley-Legrande II

Paul, If I remember correctly, Don Curtis, (I think), told me it was a Push/Pull. I believe he said that, either it wasn't new in 1987 or it had sat in a store beyond when the push/pulls stopped being made. (If I'm wrong about this, Don, I surely apologize).

I was thinking that someone had published a list of serial #'s and years some time ago.

Maybe someone will remember where that list came from.

Is there anywhere on the guitar where the LeGrand model would be identified?

Randy,
If the endplate on the changer end has a big opening and nylon tuning nuts that you can see, it's all pull.
A Push/Pull will have small holes to put the allen wrench through to get to the tuning "screws".
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Hey Guys!!
Herb Steiner seems to be the emmons GuRu of this day and time. Check Him Out. he can Probably tell you what day of the week it was assembled on by the Sr # well that might be going out on a limb. but he does know his stuff!!
BOO

Thanks so much Guys. The holes are small and you need an allen wrench.

HEY HERB...can you help me out?

Yes, sounds like you have a p/p. I have heard that some were made (on a "special-order" only basis) up to the late '80s.

After the p/p was discontinued as their "regular production guitar", they continued to get requests for them, so they built some each year (if you put a good deposit down) as long as the parts supply held out. Rumor (that's all this is, at this point) has it that the last p/p that Emmons actually built was in '88 or '89, and it had a S/N in the 6800 range.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 06 January 2003 at 08:08 PM.]</p></FONT>

Hey guys. I have relatively little information about guitars that are not in my area of interest, namely the 64-67's. I did have a 1983 Emmons that was a PP and a 6000 series number. Other than that, I defer to Mike Cass or Bobbe for detailed info about Emmons guitars.

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Thanks again guys. I'm still looking. Thanks Herb, for the info. I'll contact Bobbe or Mike and see what I can find out.

My chart shows that the guitar was made in 1980.

Thank you Buck. That's just what I was looking for. This forum is a handy little deal ain't it!