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Topic: Lower E's and the B to C# raise goes 1/2 step flat |
Chad Karnitz
From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin
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Posted 20 Aug 2014 8:16 pm
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Help!!! When I engage the E to Eb lever, my 6th string B to C# raise goes 1/2 step flat. Any ideas? The guitar is an early Emmons LeGrande. |
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Paul Sutherland
From: Placerville, California
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Posted 20 Aug 2014 8:36 pm
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Are you sure you mean the sixth string? Don't you mean the fifth string? On a normal E9 tuning the B string, which gets raised to C# by both the A and C floor pedals, is the fifth string. _________________ It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. |
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Chad Karnitz
From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin
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Posted 20 Aug 2014 8:46 pm
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Yeah, you're right, I mean the fifth string. |
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Paul Sutherland
From: Placerville, California
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Posted 20 Aug 2014 8:54 pm
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Are you saying that the B goes down in pitch to about a Bb when the E to Eb lever is engaged?
Or is the problem that when you have the A & B floor pedals depressed, and then you bring in that knee lever, that the fifth string goes down from C# to about a C?
Or third option; are you saying that when the knee lever is engaged, and then you press the A (& B) floor pedal(s), that the fifth string only goes up to about a C, not all the way up to C#? _________________ It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing.
Last edited by Paul Sutherland on 20 Aug 2014 9:05 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 20 Aug 2014 8:58 pm
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Watch the fingers of the 5th string. Does its lowering part move (something hanging up) or not (an odd manifestation of Cabinet drop)
If you have either a Franklin pedal or A# lever, watch the nylon nuts that lower 5. If they move, will finge pressure hold them still?
The nature of the fault will indicate the cure
. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Chad Karnitz
From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin
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Posted 20 Aug 2014 9:06 pm
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It depends what you do first. If you engage the E to Eb, the C# raise won't fully happen. If you do pedals first, the E to Eb lower won't happen. I have a related post with a picture of my changer fingers some of which are popped out. Something's funny here.... |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 20 Aug 2014 9:10 pm
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It looks a little grimy. Money on a couple drops of oil fixing it. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Paul Sutherland
From: Placerville, California
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Posted 20 Aug 2014 9:14 pm
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What you have been calling the changer fingers, I would call the tuning nuts. To see the changer fingers, and how they move, you need to turn the guitar upside down and shine a bright light on the changer. Then work the pedals and levers and see if anything if hanging up, which seems likely, as Lane suggests. Could be just a lubrication issue.
By the way, did you happen to recently try to take the slack out of any pedals or levers? _________________ It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. |
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Chad Karnitz
From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin
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Posted 20 Aug 2014 9:25 pm
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I'm guessing this is part of the problem?
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