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What features should the "PERFECT" Steel Guitar have??????

Posted: 21 Dec 2002 6:58 am
by Ed Naylor
I have beem in this business for some 35 years and I still find that people are always looking for a "Change"They don't like the pedals, Weight,Knee levers, etc.etc. that are available on Steels. In my opinion ALL Steels that are available by current builders are of good mechanical and cosmetic quality.I still hear complaints. Anyone have an answer or suggestion???Ed Naylor Steel GUitar Works.

Posted: 21 Dec 2002 7:24 am
by autry andress
I have bought a new Fessy, & a almost new
Derby this year, I love'm both. Can't decide
which one I love the best. I'm happy with what I have with my present set up.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by autry andress on 21 December 2002 at 07:25 AM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 21 Dec 2002 9:39 am
by Tony Prior
They should have the following, according to all the posts and comments that I have read on all forums this past year:

-Never break 3rd strings
-no cabinet drop even though thats not the problem we think
-great PP tone
-Great old Sho-Bud tone
-it should stay in tune once it is in tune
-new technology body but made of wood
-excellent pedal action
-small pedals
-large pedals
-knee levers that don't create bruises
-metal necks
-wood necks
-it should play and sound like a pp
-highly polished aluminum end castings
-it should look like an old Sho-Bud
-lightweight to carry around
-heavy for good sustain
-recognizable brand name
-low price
-easy changer system
-excellent service
-quick delivery
-great pickups
-pretty to look at
-should please everyone
-should have great intonation regardless of player
-must look good on TV
-must make the player look good
-cannot sound whiney
-must have multiple knee levers for all those changes
-must sound great to your friends
-must meet bands approval
-must meet all forum members approval
-Must have hand machined/polished parts
-must have good re-sale value

more I'm sure...

This should be easy Ed...
tp

Posted: 21 Dec 2002 10:15 am
by Tony Rankin
Hey Tony Prior,

I had one like that. I sure wish I hadn't sold it? Image

Tony Rankin



Posted: 21 Dec 2002 10:50 am
by Bobbe Seymour
A really good feature would be to recieve it after you pay for it. This is just as important as tone.

Bobbe Haha III

Posted: 21 Dec 2002 11:23 am
by Jim Bob Sedgwick
Tony: EUREKA, I THINK YOU HAVE THE ANSWER!
LMAO. Image

Posted: 21 Dec 2002 12:34 pm
by Tony Prior
Yes Bobbie , that is true..but receiving it after you pay for it really has nothing to due with the design and build cycle, not to be confused with the rinse cycle. But it would be considered a very good thing to actually receive the Steel once it is ordered and paid for.

tp
now a Bass dude...for a bit I guess...

Posted: 21 Dec 2002 2:02 pm
by GaryL
1. It should weigh no more than 25 pounds.
2. It should assemble automatically.
3 It should have perfect intonation and self-correct it's tuning.

Posted: 21 Dec 2002 3:43 pm
by Skip Cole
It should be equipped with the small emblem on the right front apron that has the appearance of a Chevy emblem, cept it says "Emmons" in the middle of it. Image
Ho, Ho, Ho, Mewy Cwistmas evwywon,

Skip

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"Steel guitar is where it are"


Posted: 21 Dec 2002 6:01 pm
by Bill Ford
A player roll would be nice...

BF

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Bill Ford

Posted: 21 Dec 2002 7:18 pm
by rhcarden
It should be built in such a way that; whom ever plays it, sounds like Buddy Emmons!


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Bob Carden 66 Emmons P/P 8/9
BMI 13 string 7/7

Posted: 21 Dec 2002 11:43 pm
by Dave Robbins
There is no "perfect" guitar! Ever...and probably "never will be!" But, there are "improvements" being made constantly. Still, what is near perfect to one player will not be to another. Opinions very, but the "culmination" of those opinions could lead up to the "ultimate" guitar! It still may not be the "perfect" guitar, though!

Each new "innovation" (sic) seems to lead to a new and "improved" guitar. Right now, the "ultimate" guitar may be the new "Millenium." Is it perfect? It depends on who you ask and what they expect or prefer in a guitar.

On the other hand...for me...the "perfect" guitar would be one that is:
In tune when it is taken out of a case that makes it weighs practically nothing, then only takes a second to set up and play pefectly in tune with "any other instruments regardless of their state of tune,"... lays perfectly in the tracks yet has a tone "live" that is wide as all outdoors and clean as a whistle and fat as can be, is "always heard", sounds perfect through any amp, rack, or direct, stays perfectly clean, and always "looks" perfect, gives me perfect hand technique, perfect intonation, and the ability to play the perfect lick at the right time!
...I'd still probably have someone come up with something to complain about! Image

Actually, I'd just be happy if no matter what guitar I played I sounded just like "Buddy Emmons!"

Dave Image

Posted: 29 Dec 2002 2:47 pm
by Peter
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>A really good feature would be to recieve it after you pay for it. This is just as important as tone.
Bobbe Haha III</SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hey Bobbe, when am I going to receive the parts that I paid for in November?
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<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Peter on 29 December 2002 at 02:49 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 29 Dec 2002 4:19 pm
by Brian Henry
Ed,

If you check out the MSA web page I think that yopu will have the answer to your question!!

Posted: 29 Dec 2002 4:24 pm
by Ron Randall
This reminds me of a similar discussion of the perfect woman!

Oh Well.

The perfect steel guitar:

Strings that are parallel. Why the taper? Tradition? Hell, a classical spanish guitar has parallel strings. Makes no sense to me, especially when trying to keep the bar perpendicular.

Ron

Posted: 30 Dec 2002 2:10 pm
by Ken Byng
Peter den Hartogh
Can't wait for a reply to your post - lol

Posted: 30 Dec 2002 2:31 pm
by Kevin Hatton
Bobbe makes an excellent point. A steel guitar should be purchased from a reputable dealer who stands by their word. Like Steel Guitar Nashville. Especially an Emmons.

Posted: 30 Dec 2002 2:50 pm
by Peter
Ken, I cant wait either! Image

Kevin, I agree you should purchase from a reputable dealer who stands by their word. However, I am still waiting, and I probably will have to make alternative arrangements. What have YOU got that I dont? Image


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Posted: 30 Dec 2002 2:51 pm
by Fred Einspruch
The perfect PSG would have a great player playing it. Thus, any minor problem would be sonicly undetectable, due to the great players abilities. I am new to PSG, but in six string land, its 99% the player and 1% equipment.

Now if someone could help me with that 99% part.......................

Posted: 31 Dec 2002 12:10 pm
by Dave Robbins
Fred, Image

Dave

Posted: 31 Dec 2002 12:26 pm
by Andy Volk
At least one string.