Beginner...National D8 Console Questions...
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- Steve Wood
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Beginner...National D8 Console Questions...
Hi All,
Just picked up this National D8.
I need an adaptor for the pickup (Amphenol, I believe?). I've search this site and been to their website and can't seem to find any, and those I do find there's no shipping to Canada. Any suggestions?
Also,
I'd like to start out with a C6/A7 tuning on the back and E13 on the front. Any suggestions for gauges?
I'm new at this so any and all advice cheerfully taken!
Just picked up this National D8.
I need an adaptor for the pickup (Amphenol, I believe?). I've search this site and been to their website and can't seem to find any, and those I do find there's no shipping to Canada. Any suggestions?
Also,
I'd like to start out with a C6/A7 tuning on the back and E13 on the front. Any suggestions for gauges?
I'm new at this so any and all advice cheerfully taken!
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Nice National Steve!
For the jack adapter, Switchcraft makes these http://www.ebay.com/itm/301151151796
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And here is a flexible version http://www.ebay.com/itm/291142068309
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For the jack adapter, Switchcraft makes these http://www.ebay.com/itm/301151151796
.
And here is a flexible version http://www.ebay.com/itm/291142068309
.
- Steve Wood
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Which tuning do you plan to use the most? I play E13 and either C6, A6 or G6. I eventually decided to put the E13 closest to me. Many of the old-time players put the E13 on the near-neck and the C6 on the front neck. A typical D10 is opposite. Also, if one neck has a slightly higher output because the pickup is stronger, put the tuning with the smaller string gauges on it. My E13 and C6 are pretty close in gauges, but my A6 or G6 tunings are way heavier than the E13, so they are naturally louder. I put the thinner strings on the fatter pickup to help balance the output. Just my 2 cents.
RICK ABBOTT
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Here are some gauges you are looking for
http://www.steelguitarshopper.com/categ ... el-guitar/
http://www.steelguitarshopper.com/categ ... el-guitar/
1977 Sho~Bud D10 ProIII Custom; Sho~Bud SD10 The Professional ; ETS S10 5x5;
Fender 1000; 1993 Remington U12; 1978 Emmons S10 P/P; GeorgeB Weissenborn;
Fluger Cat-Can; Asher Electro Hawaiian; Gibson BR4; Fender FS52; Guyatone 8str;
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Fender 1000; 1993 Remington U12; 1978 Emmons S10 P/P; GeorgeB Weissenborn;
Fluger Cat-Can; Asher Electro Hawaiian; Gibson BR4; Fender FS52; Guyatone 8str;
Fender Resonator ; Epiphone Coronet 1937; Rickenbacher Ace; Rickenbacher NS;
Dynalap 8string; Harbor Lights 8string; Aiersi Tri-Cone; Fender Stringmaster
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One thing I don't like about the adapters is that, when combined with a 1/4" plug, you've got this 4" appendage sticking out of your guitar just waiting to get snapped or bent. Using a guitar cable with a right angle plug will reduce this somewhat but it's still kind of awkward. A better option might be to purchase a cable that already has the screw-on connector attached. Harmonica players use these all the time with their old bullet mics. I know this guy, Greg Heumann, does good work:
http://www.blowsmeaway.com/micmods.html
Not cheap, $25 to build a cable + $1 per foot, but worth it in the long run. I make up my own cables that probably aren't as good as his so I carry an adapter like the top one shown above in case of emergencies.
http://www.blowsmeaway.com/micmods.html
Not cheap, $25 to build a cable + $1 per foot, but worth it in the long run. I make up my own cables that probably aren't as good as his so I carry an adapter like the top one shown above in case of emergencies.
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Steve - I use C13 on my closest neck and B11 on my other one. Jerry Byrd's book of lessons (which you can buy at Scotty's - http://www.scottysmusic.com/) contains a table showing how you can select string gauges which are good for C, E, A, and B tunings. It's a great book which comes with 2 CD's.
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- Steve Wood
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Mike, Tim and Jack,
Thanks very much for your assistance and insight!
I went to an electronics supply store and the owner looked at the pickup and thankfully was not totally puzzled...he says he may have some left at his warehouse, awaiting a call from him.
Mike, I would be very interested in the make of your cable!
Not sure I have the guts yet to go switching pickups.
I strung it up last night with C6/A7 and E13...what a world of possibilities!
Cheers, All.
Thanks very much for your assistance and insight!
I went to an electronics supply store and the owner looked at the pickup and thankfully was not totally puzzled...he says he may have some left at his warehouse, awaiting a call from him.
Mike, I would be very interested in the make of your cable!
Not sure I have the guts yet to go switching pickups.
I strung it up last night with C6/A7 and E13...what a world of possibilities!
Cheers, All.
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Search for "vintage microphone cable" and you'll find lots of resources.
Here's the product page on the Switchcraft website.
Here's the product page on the Switchcraft website.
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Sorry it took me so long to reply. I was having computer problems. As I remember changing the jacks was a relatively simple process. I may have had to remove some wood from under the plate to date accommodate the new jack. Other than that I just removed the original jack and soldered in the new one.
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If you dig through the "links" up top, -> articles -> more articles you eventually get to this, a chart of strings gauges from a low Ab to a high A ~~~ 11 - 74.
http://www.b0b.com/infoedu/gauges.htm
You may have to adjust a bit for different scale lengths, but they're still all accurate relatively. Cut 'n' paste it into your word processing program, blow it up, print like a dozen and stick them all over the place. I ended up making a notebook for stuff, so I don't have to keep pulling it up. And I'm quite sure this is my most USED spec sheet, it works on seven-string underarm guitar, open tunings etc.
http://www.b0b.com/infoedu/gauges.htm
You may have to adjust a bit for different scale lengths, but they're still all accurate relatively. Cut 'n' paste it into your word processing program, blow it up, print like a dozen and stick them all over the place. I ended up making a notebook for stuff, so I don't have to keep pulling it up. And I'm quite sure this is my most USED spec sheet, it works on seven-string underarm guitar, open tunings etc.
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Hi Steve,
Sounds like things are goin' your way!
My E13 is based on the pedal version of E9, so I have an F# on top (.014) and a D on the bottom (.o36).
D E G# B C# E G# F#
It might sound thin on some guitars. I use a Matchbox (7A) to fatten the tone a smidge.
Sounds like things are goin' your way!
My E13 is based on the pedal version of E9, so I have an F# on top (.014) and a D on the bottom (.o36).
D E G# B C# E G# F#
It might sound thin on some guitars. I use a Matchbox (7A) to fatten the tone a smidge.
RICK ABBOTT
Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
Remington T-8, Wakarusa 5e3 clone
1953 Stromberg-Carlson AU-35
Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
Remington T-8, Wakarusa 5e3 clone
1953 Stromberg-Carlson AU-35