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George Crickmore
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Myrtle Beach South Carolina, USA
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Posted 10 Apr 2014 11:34 am |
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They still play country music in Texas
Some things in life you just don’t mess with
While the world’s off chasin’ the next big thang
All caught up in the winds of change
They still play country music in Texas
I turn on the radio they’re mixin’ heavy metal with twang
People on TV doin’ anything for fame
I’m not one to cling to the past
But some of this new stuff burns my ass
Thank God and Willie some things stay the same
They still play country music in Texas
Some things in life you just don’t mess with
World’s off chasin’ the next big thang
All caught up in the winds of change
They still play country music in Texas
In Nashville They’re taking off their cowboy hats
Playin’ round with hip hop puttin’ on cock-eyed caps
It crawls up under my tired blue collar
When it’s done for nothin’ but the almighty dollar
I need a cold beer play me a fiddling song
They still play country music in Texas
Some things in life you just don’t mess with
World’s off chasin’ the next big thang
All caught up in the winds of change
They still play country music in Texas
They still play country music in Texas
Some things in life you just don’t mess with
World’s off chasin’ the next big thang
All caught up in the winds of change
They still play country music in Texas
Yeah, they still play country music in Texas
RONNIE DUNN
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Greg Stasny
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Texas, USA
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Darrell Criswell
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 15 Apr 2014 3:39 pm
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There are not many places they play country in Texas and they seem to be disappearing. Fort Worth is the only place I know where you can hear it consistently and even there you have to really look to find it.
In far West Texas you still hear western swing and some honky tonk on FM radio. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2014 8:09 am
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| There are several places around Austin that are country to the core. |
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Darrell Criswell
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2014 8:49 am
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Erv:
What are the places around Austin…I lived around there and didn't find much. Red Volkhart at Contiental Club and Little Ginny's Saloon were the closest I found. |
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Greg Stasny
From:
Texas, USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2014 8:08 pm
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Close to Austin is the Cotton Club (Granger), and Coupland Hall (Coupland).
Leon Springs Dancehall next to San Antonio consistently books great traditional country bands.
Western Club in Navasota also keeps us visiting with real TX dancehall music.
Still not enough 
Plus the mentioned Ft Worth locations. |
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 17 Apr 2014 5:47 am
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In Austin you can find country music in a number of clubs. Broken Spoke, White Horse, Rattle Inn and wherever Dale Watson is playing. I must mention that the original post is kinda ridiculous. It is a fantasy that the "Real Shitters" are into.(you know , the guys that come up after gigs and tell you that you play the real shit and not that fake shit.)
The Texas music scene has very little in common with the idea people have of it outside of Texas. The more successful Red Dirt/Texas Country scene is almost a farm team for Nashville. They often wear backwards baseball hats and play watered down imitations of Journey.
There is some great stuff going on here but I am always amused by the assumptions people make.
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 17 Apr 2014 8:47 am
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Writing songs about how bad new country music is is just as much a cliche as the music it's making fun of.
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LJ Eiffert
From:
California, USA
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Posted 19 Apr 2014 10:46 am
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This is like Eric Hilyard Nelson in some party garden.  What did I say?  Uncle Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. & PIGEONS band.  |
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Chris Schlotzhauer
From:
Colleyville, Tx. USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2014 2:34 pm
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| The more successful Red Dirt/Texas Country scene is almost a farm team for Nashville |
I disagree....give me an example |
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Greg Stasny
From:
Texas, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2014 12:21 pm
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| The more successful Red Dirt/Texas Country scene is almost a farm team for Nashville |
I disagree....give me an example |
Pat Green, Jack Ingram, Eli Young Band...their migration was based on the college crowd tastes, nothing traditional. Limited success once they left TX and the comfort of familiarity.
I have cringed at the FM stations use of the term "TX Country", when the band or song fits Nashville's definition quite well. |
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LJ Eiffert
From:
California, USA
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Posted 24 Apr 2014 8:27 am
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No Body is going to change Corp-Country Music Business Long Heads into it's real form of Traditional Country music with 4 4's,2 4's, 3 4's & 8's rock style in traditional Country Music the way it really was.Just get out there and do your part of bring back what it is you play and love in your Country music and that will speak louder than words.Am doing Louisiana Country with easy Rock N Roll with some good feel go to play licks. The new World Country is here and it's going to be for a while. Out side of that they don't care who I am or any of us who think they care about what we say or try to do to get them to do what is what they are doing wrong. Wrong hell,they are making money and we are having a hard time getting any.Just like Big Fish Killing little fish Trout's night clubs in Bakersfield,California. Uncle Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. & PIGEONS Band with some CRAWFISH Band.  |
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Chris Schlotzhauer
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Colleyville, Tx. USA
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Posted 25 Apr 2014 6:39 am
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| Greg Stasny wrote: |
| Chris Schlotzhauer wrote: |
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| The more successful Red Dirt/Texas Country scene is almost a farm team for Nashville |
I disagree....give me an example |
Pat Green, Jack Ingram, Eli Young Band...their migration was based on the college crowd tastes, nothing traditional. Limited success once they left TX and the comfort of familiarity.
I have cringed at the FM stations use of the term "TX Country", when the band or song fits Nashville's definition quite well. |
Pat Green was money-whipped and went to Nashville. Jack has been through a couple of tours in Nashville.
They never gave in to their sound, although not very country. And...they are both back in Texas doing there own thing again.
None of the Texas artist I know are nothing close to what Nashville is putting out.
The Texas artists here now don't need Nashville. If anything, they would love to get them but they won't.
These guys still make a killing down here and sell a ton of records. Why would they leave? |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 25 Apr 2014 7:14 am
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| The moral to the story is: "Don't Mess With Texas!" |
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 25 Apr 2014 7:36 am
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| LJ Eiffert wrote: |
| This is like Eric Hilyard Nelson in some party garden. What did I say? Uncle Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. & PIGEONS band. |
Hey Leo, that's Eric "Hilliard" Nelson AKA Rickey Nelson. That was his mother's maiden name.  JH in Va... Still missin' the good old days and gigs we shared in SoCal.
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Joe Casey
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Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)
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Posted 27 Apr 2014 5:16 am
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| Excerpts from a song I wrote with Weylon in mind in the 80s. Done with his beat "They don't change a thing in Texas, They just do it their own way. If you call yourself Country, Then son that's what you better play. They like Rock and Roll with lots of soul, But Countrys a touchy thing. Better pack a gun if you make fun, In a place where Bob Wills is still King. [/list] |
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Bill Cunningham
From:
Atlanta, Ga. USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2014 7:23 am
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| Erv Niehaus wrote: |
| There are several places around Austin that are country to the core. |
Some of the best live music I have ever heard was in Austin.....and, at the risk of being critical, a disproportionally high number who would struggle to rise to amateur status anywhere .  They seem to migrate there from around the country.
Memorable moments...One time I heard a trio, Justin Trevino, Jim Loessberg and a drummer play in a small club somewhere the cab driver was reluctant to let me out of the car. Loessberg had come directly from softball and was still in his uniform. Don't miss Herb Steiner with the big Tony Harrison big band.
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 27 Apr 2014 7:44 am
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Chris, you are of coarse right when it comes to the artists you are working with. And there are quite a few different scenes where the artists are only concerned with the regional market. In my experience the artists that were looking at going national we're looking at Nashville. The problem with the Nashville promo/radio scene is that they charge about a $1,000,000.00 to break a new artist single these days. But that is for another thread.
I was also surprised at how many recordings of Texas music were recorded in Nashville. I am not naming names because everybody gets so pissy about it. But even the main icon of real country music who makes Austin his home records in Nashville.
If you guys want to look at a real "Texas music" success that is packing the dance halls check out Kyle Park. The guy can sing like he has been pitch corrected without Antares.
I love it here and am way into the music scene but..... This image people have of Texas that don't live here is absurd. Most people that live in Austin have no idea that you can hear country music here. I have had people complain to the band at gigs in Rainey st that they can't dance to that stuff when we were playing country shuffles. The bands making money on dirty 6th are playing lady gaga or 80s tribute stuff. There are still a couple die hards doing Stevie Ray. There is also a very vibrant retro jazz and indie rock scene.
A beautiful thing about the Texas scene that is unique is people dance here. They are good at it and it is normal to see moms teaching there daughters two stepping when you play the street fair scene. Watching the goof balls from LA free styling at the country dance gigs is always a hoot.
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| Some of the best live music I have ever heard was in Austin.....and, at the risk of being critical, a disproportionally high number who would struggle to rise to amateur status anywhere . They seem to migrate there from around the country |
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Bill, you said it brother ! The standards are astonishingly low. It is getting way better fast though. Thankfully guys like Wayne Dahl are showing up these days and are knocking the slackers down the food chain. ( he has already taken over a couple of money gigs of mine that I had no business doing ...)
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LJ Eiffert
From:
California, USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2014 12:11 pm
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| Come on Bob,Don't let the Big Fish in your neighborhood control what you started to say. You already opened the doors to this story and this story is nothing new. Those Artists in Texas know who they are. Just like Bakersfield,California Country Music & Southern California Country Music Neighborhood Musicians have no balls to stand up for what is right because they know they won't be working. Really! Am a shame of this whole bunch of corp.Country music heads who have done us all in killing our traditional Country Music and the Cities who have helped them do it. The real History of Country music in todays world is a big joke and the same with the people who are running it.It's all Big Money for the IRS and the hands who have their hands in it.So all we have is freedom of speech or do we? They gonna kill me again! Uncle Leo J.Eiffert,jr. for our Academy Of Country Music Museum in Southern California where it came from by us old dogs of Traditional Country Music and Night Clubs. |
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 27 Apr 2014 2:10 pm
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LJ,
Can you repeat that in some form that I can comprehend ? I have no idea about what you are trying to say and from your comment I get the vauge impression that you had no idea about what I said.
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David Kurrasch
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Royse City, Texas, USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2014 5:30 pm
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If Texas artists don't need Nashville, then why do so many of the more successful ones have phone numbers with the 615 area code on the contact pages of their websites?
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Jana Lockaby
From:
Kaufman, TX
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Posted 28 Apr 2014 6:05 am
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If you want to hear country in Texas, get out of the big cities. It's still alive and well in East Texas, as is western swing. Don williams, Marty Stuart, Ronnie Milsap, and others have played Tyler venues in the past sevral months, and hopefully, Mel Tillis, will be coming soon too.
As far as the "Texas/Red Dirt" artist, let them chase their dreams. Willie and Waylon did it. Seems to me, they all come back home even better than when they left. some of these young artist have really great songs, and are excellent song writers. You just don't get to hear their really good, country, stuff on the radio. They don't forget their roots. They are just doing what they have to do to follow their dreams, just like Willie and Waylon did.
You want "real" country, try a VFW hall any Saturday night. Band might not be that great, but I'm betting it will be a country band, playing the kind of country you guys want to hear, along with some western swing thrown in for good measure. |
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Joe Casey
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Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)
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Posted 28 Apr 2014 6:32 am
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| I just wish they had let it die, Instead they buried it it alive. Like swimming up a waterfall, ain't nothing can survive. |
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LJ Eiffert
From:
California, USA
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Posted 28 Apr 2014 8:27 am
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| Bob Hoffnar, it's easy to understand what I said to you. Rope it in.you said you wouldn't name names. That one of my points about making the story and let's face it,Traditional Country Music is dead for the everyday common indie young or old Artist on any Radio Station that makes them Big Money from corp.Country Music Business. I just wish all you young folks who are wearing our shoes now would have respect to stand up for us old farts who are out of the picture of to days Country Music.But the few who are still around that us old Musicians played their music so they could be who they are in Traditional Music as a career out of us night Club musicians and Artist know that how it was in our day. Did you get that? Uncle Leo J.Eiffert,jr & PIGEONS Band with some Louisiana CRAWFISH Band too. |
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Adam Przybyla
From:
Chicago, IL
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Posted 28 Apr 2014 8:46 am
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Leo, I could be wrong, but ithinkyou r runonsentences.and, oddly;placed pun,ctuation are whatBob ishaveing.a hard timecom.prehending.
Somehow, it seems that grammar and syntax have gone the way of traditional county music.  |
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