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My New MSA Millenium

Posted: 8 Oct 2002 12:38 pm
by Tommy White
I received my new MSA Millenium early Monday morning. Not only is it prestigious and drop dead beautiful, it sounds incredible. After playing it for 20 minutes and realizing the instrument was perfect, I took it to rehearse for a show at the Opry House. I rehearsed with the Nashville Symphony Orchestra for 7 hours for a 4 hour show. The guitar performed flawlessly for 11 hours straight, right out of the case and as I said, sounded incredible. All the new features the new Millenium offers really helped keep me focused, which makes playing more enjoyable. Wow, what a guitar. As I said in another post, Reece, Kyle and the team have absolutely outdone themselves.
My best,
TW

Posted: 8 Oct 2002 12:45 pm
by Jim Phelps
Hmmm, so maybe that big price isn't so ridiculous after all...?

Posted: 8 Oct 2002 2:37 pm
by Joe Casey
Can there be any better endorsement?

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CJC


Posted: 8 Oct 2002 3:14 pm
by Graham
Pictures, Tommy??

Please!

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Rebel™
ICQ 614585

http://users.interlinks.net/rebel/steel/steel.html




Posted: 8 Oct 2002 4:04 pm
by Jeff A. Smith
I thought it was very exciting that Reece was courageous enough to move in a dramatically different technological direction, and not compromise (so it appears anyway) to make the guitar more "marketable." That kind of spirit, to me, always deserves admiration.

Now to have a top flight player validate this new direction is really inspiring. Thanks Tommy, for taking the time to tell us all what you think!

Posted: 8 Oct 2002 5:27 pm
by Al Marcus
I didn't expect any thing Less from Reece.
He is first class in every way..al Image Image

Posted: 8 Oct 2002 6:06 pm
by Rex Thomas
Me happy. Image

Posted: 8 Oct 2002 6:14 pm
by Fred Shannon
"Drop Dead Beautiful"!!! Just has to be the proper description of TW's new Millennium. I have to be candid and tell you I saw the MSA team putting this axe together and that TW's statement is an excellent manner in which to describe the instrument.

The care and precise measurements that were being made were very precise and made meticulously. However, I saw another guitar being put together and the same care of assembly were being exercised on that instrument also.

You'll need sun glasses to watch TW in action on this guitar. Tommy I'll let you tell everyone what color it is but let me tell you folks it will stand out on the stage. A "Killer Guitar" for a "KILLER PLAYER".

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The spirit be with you!!



Posted: 8 Oct 2002 6:57 pm
by Jim Smith
Congrats on your new guitar Tommy! Image Does this mean we will get to see it on the Opry this Saturday?

I just noticed that the new MSA web site has pictures of Tommy and several other players and owners, apparently taken in the MSA suite at St. Louis. It announces Pee Wee Whitewing as "one of the newest owners of a Millennium S12" and "Phyllis and Larry Tresnicky - the proud owners of two new MSA Millennium D10’s": http://www.msapedalsteels.com/html/msa_family.html

Fred, I'm curious about part of your post:
<SMALL>The care and precise measurements that were being made were very precise and made meticulously. However, I saw another guitar being put together and the same care of assembly were being exercised on that instrument also.</SMALL>
Can you explain this? I thought I read that the mounting holes are pre-formed in the precision carbon fiber molds, and that the aluminum parts are machined on computer controlled equipment.

As a former pedal steel guitar builder, I'm curious what "precise measurements" are required when assembling a pre-molded and drilled guitar? Image

Back in the old days at Dekley, before computer controlled equipment, we had jigs and fixtures to control hole placements within acceptable tolerances of .005". The only "precise measurements" we made when assembling guitars, other than clamping parts together before fastening, was in gluing the fretboards in place.

Posted: 8 Oct 2002 7:09 pm
by Kyle Bennett
Jim,
Fred is referring to gaged, Nitonic rollers on the bridge. Each Millennium has gaged rollers that are hand polished and measured by hand on a precision jewelers lathe.
Kyle / MSA

Posted: 8 Oct 2002 7:17 pm
by Fred Shannon
Jim S. '
Certainly, I'll try to explain. I was privileged to spend about 3 hours in the company of Kyle and Sonny while they were putting TW's guitar together and the placement of the pull rods were being measured as to the amount of play that was involved and if you're familiar with the pedal rod adjustments on the new MSA you know that the adjustment there is pretty critical to the player and each one of the measurements taken were compared to the other. Bear in mind also, Jim, I'm not a builder but I've witnessed other shops (that I certainly won't mention) where this type care is not taken during the assembly. I was very impressed with the workmanship and you're close enough to take a trip over there and see for yourself. Right?

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The spirit be with you!!



Posted: 8 Oct 2002 7:31 pm
by Jim Smith
Thanks Kyle and Fred. Image

Fred, we just used a small piece of bent aluminum under the free play stops to set the same amount of free play in each pedal and knee lever.

Kyle, since the MSA rollers are measured by hand, what happens if/when a player decides to change string gauges? Image I gauged the rollers on my Dekley by trial and error with a jeweler's file and a drill press. Image BTW, a simple trigonometric formula would allow you to calculate the precise depth of each roller based on the angle of the cut and diameter of the string. Image

Posted: 9 Oct 2002 5:35 am
by b0b
Forum glitch happened. Sorry about that.

Posted: 9 Oct 2002 7:36 am
by Rick Collins
You cannot halt the progression of technology,__and who would want to anyway? Some of the old guitars are grand instruments and some sound wonderful; but the steel guitar is still evolving and the new MSA is a giant leap, as I knew it would be.

It will be my next guitar too.

Rick

Posted: 9 Oct 2002 9:29 am
by Jerry Brightman
I'm gonna stick my neck out here and go on record as saying, if Tommy hasn't played it, it's just because he hadn't thought of it at the time...This world class player has so many abilities as a player of this instrument...and will further this instrument in massive proportions...

I'm a nobody, and this is just my opinion of course..but there, I've said it!

Jerry http://www.slidestation.com

Posted: 9 Oct 2002 2:29 pm
by Johnny Cox
I also had the opportunity to tour the MSA factory two weeks ago. What a wonderful facility, Micro Space Instruments. I spent the better part of the day with Reece, Kyle & Sonny. These gentlemen treated me like a king. I also saw Tommy's guitar in the early stages, and let me say that I was very impressed with the way these new guitars are put together. I am anxious to see the completed version at the Opry Friday night.


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Johnny Cox
So many steels, so little time.




Posted: 11 Oct 2002 1:33 am
by Mike Perlowin
Tommy, what pickup did you put in the guitar? Did you try out several and choose the one you like best? Or do you have a few different ones for different sounds?

Posted: 11 Oct 2002 5:11 am
by Dave Van Allen
<SMALL> I'm a nobody</SMALL>
no Jerry- I'm a "nobody";

you are a former occupant of the steel chair of the legendary Buckaroos.
...there, I've said it!
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<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Dave Van Allen on 11 October 2002 at 06:12 AM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 11 Oct 2002 6:41 am
by Tommy White
Jerry,
Thank you, and yes you are somebody, just as DVA said.
Mike P,
I chose the George L TW's for my Millenium, but I can honestly say, the guitar has such sustain, clarity and width in tone, I would bet just about any pickup will sound good in it.
TW

Posted: 11 Oct 2002 6:49 am
by Reece Anderson
Jeff S....I most sincerely appreciate your very flattering comment!

Al M....Thank you dear friend for the kind words!

Fred S....We appreciate your visiting the MSA facility and your positive comments. We at MSA are proud to have you as a new member of "Team Millennium"!

Jim S....Thank you for your reference to our web site!

Rick C....You're absolutely correct in that the progression of technology cannot be stopped. As a result, the pedal steel guitar has now entered a new and exciting era in design, materials, technology, and precision. I believe many will be surprised and amazed at what the near future holds.

Johnny C....It was a pleasure to have you visit my home and the MSA factory. We look forward to seeing you again in the near future.

Posted: 11 Oct 2002 8:21 am
by Eddie Malray
Probably be a lot of Carters for sale after this post.

Posted: 11 Oct 2002 10:57 am
by RON PRESTON
OUCH,.....

Posted: 11 Oct 2002 11:06 am
by Roger Rettig
I'm in Texas 'til this weekend - how do I get in touch with the MSA folks?

I'd love to see one of these guitars up close....

Posted: 11 Oct 2002 1:16 pm
by Dave Horner
Roger,

Send me an email indicating how you can be reached in Dallas. We'll see if there is a time convenient for you.
Thanks,

Dave
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Dave Horner on 11 October 2002 at 02:17 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 12 Oct 2002 7:16 am
by Craig Allen
OK guy,s, I HAVE been in a vacuum!!!
I am back driving a truck over the road, and have been out of touch for about 6 months. I didn't know anything about this "new" guitar.
So would someone PLEEEEEZZZZZZZZ enlighten me.

As I'm sure most of you know I am an MSA snob so to be so un-informed is embarrassing. Help me out here guys, pleezzzzzz..!!!!!

Thanx
Craig Allen