The Steel Guitar Forum

...no thanks to UPS... (I had to partially re-rebuild it upon it's arrival)

I would like to thank Forumite B. Greg Jones of London Kentucky for his FANTASTIC JOB on rebuilding (and adding a verticle KL to) my basket case of an early 70's ZB Custom D10. (it was not refinished but finish repairs were also performed)

Thanks to Greg I now know the original finish was green (It has mellowed to a beautiful tobacco leaf golden brown - kind of like I've heard that some LDG's have) and that a prior owner who was careless with his cigarettes also apparently used epoxy to try and repair several burns in the finish. Oh well- I'll chalk those up to honky-tonk authenticity.

All the metal surfaces gleam like a newly minted coin.

Highly polished pedal rack, pedals repainted vintage black and new decals.

One would have to examine it very closely to see that it is not "showroom fresh"



The undercarriage was rebuilt thoroughly with many NOS or newly crafted original style cross straps and pull rods, and adapted to my (not too unusual) E9 and C6th copedants, with a verticle lever added on left side..

when shipped to Greg the E9th was barely playable on pedals A,B,C and the E lowers lever, and the C6th was a disaster of uncoupled /missing linkages. Many parts were unoriginal and maladjusted.

The pedal action is as smooth as one could possibly expect, especially from a vintage brand noted for being occaisionally mechanically cantankerous... it is not the modern all-pull action of my ZUM, but I do not expect it to be...that said, it is VERY VERY SMOOTH.


all that and he managed to leave the ZB Sound intact.

This particular guitar embodies the sound I fell in love with as a youth, and lives up to 30 years of idealized memory as to the tonal qualities I believed ZB's to possess.

Thank you Greg!!!

the check is in the mail, honest Just don't cash it 'til after Payday


Pictures to come REAL SOON....


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"I AM Z-BOY!"


<small>Zumsteel U12 "Loafer" 8&6 :: ZB Custom D-10 :: Fender Tube Amplification
www.voicenet.com/~vanallen/ :: vanallen@voicenet.com :: www.lasttrainhome.com

So where are the pictures Dave? We can't wait to see it. I just bought one myself. Greg Jones is a tremendous resource for these old guitars. One very knowledgable person on ZB's.

Congratulations Dave. You're home.

But is the D-10 thing gonna be a quandary?

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Sorry folks can't put the pix up for a while.
if you want to see it and haven't, email me

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"I AM Z-BOY!"


<small>Zumsteel U12 "Loafer" 8&6 :: ZB Custom D-10 :: Fender Tube Amplification
www.voicenet.com/~vanallen/ :: vanallen@voicenet.com :: www.lasttrainhome.com

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Hey Dave:

Congratulations! I'm sure the guitar looks great after Greg finished it. He's great and a great guy.

Long live the ZB guitar!


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Larry Chung
ZB D-10 8+4; ZB Custom S-11 4+4; ZB Student Model 3+1 Yeeeeahhh, Bay-Bee.

By the way, Dave, what's the serial number on your ZB?

Yummy

Looks just like the one I let get away in '84

bob

Larry:

0458 is stamped into the changer endplate.

Greg guessed from mechanical features that it's early 70's ('72-'74)which was my gut feeling with no good reason to think so.

They would have to be the coolest looking guitar ever built.imho.
Brendan

Dave, now thats a REAL steel guitar! Wait I've got a better idea. Lets make em' outta plastic! Yeah thats it. That'll work. On second thought, nevermind.

Hey Dave, Looks beautiful. It strangely resembles a ZB I once owned and tried to play. I'd come over to see it but I'm afraid it would run across your back yard to get away from me...or turn and attack me.

They sure don't come much nicer!

Glen, you may come visit anytime. We'll see if she pulls a Harry Potter on ya...

Bring the MSA with ya... I sorta miss it.
How's it treating you?

Beautiful axe, Dave. Rusty Young would be proud.

Hey folks, you're making me feel good allready as Greg has my ZB#0017 D-11, that I had built in 1968. It has served 2 one year tours in Vietnam, it has been bombed. And Dave, he was finishing up on yours when he started mine. This might be cute. I was in Hawaii when I ordered ole 0017 from Zane. I ordered 2 new ZBs at the same time. One for myself, and the other for Chris Crobaugh AKA
Chick Donner. We both still have them.
Jim<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jim Florence on 01 October 2002 at 08:18 PM.]</p></FONT>

Congrats, it's beauttifull!

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Steelin' Greetings
Marco Schouten
Sho-Bud Pro III Custom; Sho-Bud LLG

Hey Dave, That is one fine looking Steel, you got to credit Greg, he doesn't only put new finishes and parts, he puts a bit of his heart into the old ZB"s, and anything else he works on, but his love for the old ZB's is out of this world.
So Dave,,,Enjoy your new/old ZB, and when you play it, look up every now and then, and smile at Zane,,,,,,,,,



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Wayne Morgan
BMI D10 8x8, Nash 400,'63 Fender Super Reverbe,and '71 telecaster custom

Greg Jones, ZB guru! I'm glad this great old classic , wonderful sounding steel guitar has a growing following. Just like Bigsby, don't let this classic ever slip from the pages of history.
Built by a great guy and player.Zane Beck. I think Greg is doing us all a great service as a restorer and repairman.
All ZB fans have my respect and support!

Bobbe Seymour <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 02 October 2002 at 11:08 PM.]</p></FONT>

Hey Dave!

Yeeeah, that's a fine lookin' ZB. Thanks for the serial number info. I check my S-11 (serial # 0252) via the EIA codes on the volume/tone pots and it's early 70s, too, (36th week of 1970 is what the pots say).

Greg, you da man . . . Greg = ZB = Zee Best


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Larry Chung
ZB D-10 8+4; ZB Custom S-11 4+4; ZB Student Model 3+1 Yeeeeahhh, Bay-Bee.

<SMALL>Yeeeeahhh, Bay-Bee</SMALL>

So Larry... are you implying that if Austin Powers played steel guitar he'd play a ZB Custom?

Hi Dave:

Hey, congrats on the guitar. My ZB D-10 just makes me smile everytime I look at it or play it. Really. I'm like a little schoolboy in the playground . . .

As far as your post, I have spoken with Mr. Powers and he fully endorses the ZB pedal steel guitar - "The ZB is the most groove-a-licious bar wanker out there, baby. I give it five Mojos!"

Have fun with it and make lots of pretty sounds.
Best,
lc

I would like to thank everyone for the nice comments concerning Dave's ZB. I try to do my best on these nice old guitars. It was Tom Brumley and the ZB sound that got me hooked years ago as a little boy. I am glad to see this guitar in the hands of a fine player and someone who appreciates these guitars for what they are. They do have a "sound" all their own!!! Dave was great to deal with and I will gladly rebuild his next ZB!!!

Larry, you are as nuts about ZB's as I am!!!!

I am in the process of trying to create a webpage that features some of my ZB rebuilds. I ain't no whiz on the puter though, and it seems rebuilding these guitars is easier!!!

Hopefully by the time I get Jim Florence's D-11 completed I will have a page to look at. This one is a rare bird, built in Bakersfield. I understand they were only there about a year.

Thanks again all!!!!

Greg

Dave,

Glad to hear that you're enjoying your ZB. I owned one back in the 80's and it did have sweet tone.

Does it have white fret boards? I sure do think the ones with white fretboards were exceptionally pretty.

Regards,
HH<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Harry Hess on 10 October 2002 at 12:01 AM.]</p></FONT>

Harry' Are you sure the white fretboard
was on a ZB. Clark is allmost a ZB clone. Jim Clark was a friend of Zane's and had permission to copy parts of ZBs, pickups in particular.I have one now and it has a white fretboard. I thought all ZBs had a black fretboard with "X rated" symbols.
Jim

earlier ZB's had white fretboards. Mine has black.

I like 'em just fine.