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6 vs 8 string to achieve Eddie Rivers sound
Posted: 11 Apr 2014 5:13 pm
by David Bardenstein
After a brief time with C6 lap steel and a health limited foray into pedal steel I have realized I am heading back to non pedal steel. I particularly like the sound achieved by Eddie RIvers in his work with Asleep at the Wheel. THe question I have is whether the dense dark chords of Eddie RIvers are best done with an 8 string or whether a 6 string is enough. A second question is how a learner gets guidance in achieving that sort of sound (tapes courses etc) FInally to what extent is his ability to do what he does related to having multiple necks available simultaneously as opposed to pedal steel.
Posted: 11 Apr 2014 7:36 pm
by Mark Roeder
I know he uses A6 as one of his necks. That could be part of the answer to your dark dense chords. Not sure what he uses on the other necks
sweet video
Posted: 11 Apr 2014 10:15 pm
by Lane Cunningham
you've probably seen this video but if not then you should really check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rARCcW3I0K4
sounding like eddie rivers
Posted: 11 Apr 2014 11:38 pm
by David Bardenstein
Hadn t seen this Thanks so much it is great.
Posted: 12 Apr 2014 3:31 am
by Jerome Hawkes
A6 = 8 strings
Posted: 12 Apr 2014 9:14 pm
by David Bardenstein
Got it
Posted: 13 Apr 2014 3:05 am
by Jerome Hawkes
i've seen Eddie up close in small clubs a couple times with AATW - playing his quad-8. he is certainly a neck jumper. he almost always played at least 2 necks and sometimes, but rarely all 4. He told me when AATW flies and he can't take the quad, he will use a S-8 in A6 for the whole show (obviously) .
Posted: 13 Apr 2014 9:42 am
by Robbie Bossert
One neck has Leon's E13 tuning.....
Robbie
Posted: 13 Apr 2014 11:37 am
by David Bardenstein
Thanks again to all for the guidance. Can I ask another question. I currently have a Carter starter pedal steel which I probably will end up parting with. However, is it reasonable to string it as an 8 string A6 to really start learning lap steel while I look for an 8 string or is it really better to have the lap 8? I am running out of instrument space and so dont realistically see just adding.
If I use the Carter, I assume I would string the closer 8 strings. Is there anything about positioning/ergonomics that I need to add in if I am using a pedal steel as a lap steel because of the need to rely on slants for the nonpedal style?
Also what is the effect of scale length on playability (as opposed to sound)
Thanks again
Dave
eddie rivers
Posted: 13 Apr 2014 11:38 am
by David Bardenstein
Yes that is how I learned about his was an AATW show where I was able to get close and watch him jump necks Amazing.
Posted: 13 Apr 2014 1:58 pm
by Stephen Baker
Hey David, if you’d missed that video maybe you missed this one too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAbpeZ-y1eQ. Steve