Lloyd's Guitar

Dennis Detweiler · Post by **Dennis Detweiler** » 23 Sep 2002 2:27 pm

The LDG guitars don't have bushings in the undercarriage. Did Lloyd guiet the mechanics of his guitar by installing nylon bushings? Or maybe tucking foam rubber between the cross shafts and body of the guitar? Anyone have any methods of silencing?
Thanks
Dennis

Jim Palenscar · Post by **Jim Palenscar** » 23 Sep 2002 5:19 pm

Slipping small rubber/plastic tubing/shrink wrap over the pull rods will many times help with undercarriage noise. Most of the builders like to set up the cross shafts fairly loosely for free movement and to avoid environmentally induced binding. Therefore some of the noise that comes from the "slop" in the crossshafts is unavoidable although nylon washers and bushings will help.

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 23 Sep 2002 6:13 pm

Dennis, Duanne Marrs and Jeff Surratt work on Lloyd's guitar. One of Duanne's methods of quieting a guitar down is to indeed put foam around the cross rods. I will ask him about Lloyd's guitar when I see him in two weeks.

Dennis Detweiler · Post by **Dennis Detweiler** » 23 Sep 2002 6:56 pm

Thanks guys....I'm sure it's something simple and effective. I'd like to know how Duanne does it.
Dennis

Kenny Davis · Post by **Kenny Davis** » 23 Sep 2002 8:05 pm

How big an issue is undercarriage noise? I can't recall ever hearing anything on the bandstand. When I record I'm usually on a direct box, so there's no mic close by to pick anything up from my guitar.

Has anyone ever heard noise on a recording? Listen to The Best of Conway Twitty on LaserLight Digital (12 438), cut #3. Listen real close to the kick-off!

Frank Parish · Post by **Frank Parish** » 24 Sep 2002 4:35 am

Dennis,
You can call Duane at 615-868-5344.

Wayne Cox · Post by **Wayne Cox** » 24 Sep 2002 6:06 am

Even though it is not aesthetically pleasing,a very effective method is to stuff loose cotton between the pull rods. Maybe you can find some black cotton? The slotted foam rubber dampers work well if the foam is soft. But the stiffer kinds can cause drag,so,"caution" is the byword.
W.C.

Dennis Detweiler · Post by **Dennis Detweiler** » 24 Sep 2002 10:58 am

The undercarriage noises will transfer through the guitar via the pickup and into your amp. Try leaning into your volume pedal without picking a string while you push pedals and knees. It comes through your speaker. Some guitars more than others.
I also realize the way the pickup is mounted will effect it.
Try ripping off a big one during an intro and see if you hear it on the playback

Dennis