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Dobro Sound Using a Pedal Steel?

Posted: 27 Aug 2002 12:47 pm
by Roger Andrusky
I was at the Herby Wallace/Steel Jam last Sunday and heard a guy make his Kline sound like a real Dobro (or at least very close). He changed bars but I don't see how that would have given him that sound. I didn't get a chance to ask him. Anyone know this trick? - Roger

Posted: 27 Aug 2002 12:55 pm
by Jim Smith
Goodrich MatchBro. Image

Posted: 27 Aug 2002 1:06 pm
by autry andress
If it sounded like the real thing it was probably the Super bro by goodrich.
Sure beats carrying a dobro.
Steel guitar Nashville has'em{pictures too}.
Good luck.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by autry andress on 28 August 2002 at 01:03 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 27 Aug 2002 1:18 pm
by Gene Jones
It sounds authentic enough that the blue-grass bands that appear on our show regularly ask me to stay on stage and set-in with them. That's a good enough indorsement for the "Super-Bro" for me! www.genejones.com <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 27 August 2002 at 02:19 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 27 Aug 2002 1:23 pm
by Bobbe Seymour
We stock this unit, however money is a little on the "much" side. It does have some great advantages though over a real dobro: easier to carry, easier to "Tune", easier to mic., etc, It's a pretty great unit. Doesn't look as good as a real dobro though.
Bobbe
www.steelguitar.net

Posted: 27 Aug 2002 4:57 pm
by Sam White
I have Dobro in my Pro Fex II and it sounds pretty close.
Sam White

Posted: 27 Aug 2002 5:07 pm
by Don Olson
When you play with the Dobro effect you have to think Dobro not pedal steel.
Zumsteel Don

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 1:08 am
by Quesney Gibbs
If the steeler changed bars he is likely to be using an old trick that I use even to this day.

Saw off the top few inches (about the length of your bar) of your wife's broom handle (unpainted of course) and you have instant dobro.

I learned this little trick from a New Orleans player named Earl Ortega before all the gadgets came into being.

Try it....

Ques<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Quesney Gibbs on 28 August 2002 at 02:10 AM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 2:02 am
by David Decker
It was a goodrich MatchBro that I used last Sunday. Image

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 3:23 am
by Roger Andrusky
Cool! Sounds like the broomstick idea may be cheaper, though. Image

David, I didn't get a chance to talk to you - I was, and am, fighting an upper respiratory infection so I couldn't stick around long. Totally, totally enjoyed your pickin! Thanks for coming the distance! - Roger

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 5:09 am
by BobG
<SMALL>Saw off the top few inches (about the length of your bar) of your wife's broom handle </SMALL>
Hey Quesney! I took your advise and asked my wife if I could have her broom......
She told me "where I could stick it".
...I wonder what offended her ? Image

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Profex ll.

<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by BobG on 28 August 2002 at 06:09 AM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 5:35 am
by Jim Vogan
I may be able to salvage part of the handle. My wife wrecked hers. Hope she doesn't see this post!

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Jim Vogan Emmons Sd10 Stereo steel Amp

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 5:43 am
by David Decker
Roger, thanks for the kind words. I really enjoyed the show, and the chance to play there. Like Arnold said " I'll be back" Image

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 7:24 am
by Erv Niehaus
I have a Super Bro and get a good dobro sound out of it. As to the special bar, the Super Bro comes with a special (plastic) bar. This adds to the dobro sound. When I want the dobro sound, I turn off all effects and use a dry signal along with some dobro playing techniques.
Erv

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 7:38 am
by John Lacey
Al Brisco has a SuperBro listed at $990. Canadian. I guess I won't be getting one anytime soon.

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 7:43 am
by Pete Burak
A Phaser or Flanger effect, set on a very slow speed, will give that broom handle an extra bumb in the "Dobro sound" direction.

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 2:17 pm
by Ad Kersten
Can anyone advise me how to program a tubefex for a proper dobro sound?
Ad

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Posted: 28 Aug 2002 3:29 pm
by Paul Graupp
AD: Here's what I have on my Tube-Fex.

TB
pre 90
pad hi
post 49
bass 40
mid 20
treb 80
pres +30
->CF
rate 0.7
depth 26%
dly 4.6ms
flange +16
mx +100
+DL
type stereo
L dly 361
L fbk 29%
R dly 361
R fbk 29%
Sim off
Mx +100
+RV
type spring
size large
P dly 30ms
time 2.9s
Damp off
MX +100
+EF
sens +0
freq 51
reson 83
type LP-slo
MX +100

I usually mute the strings with the palm of my right hand when using this program and get a resonable facsimile of a banjo.

Quesney: When John Paul Jones was still with us, we exchanged a few e-mails and one of them was on the broom handle theory. I told him, one night in France, I had a head cold and as I was using my Vicks inhaler, I noticed how much it looked like a minature bar. I used it and got the funniest sound I ever found. JPJ replied that he too used an inhaler but he said he used to dip his in hot coffee !! Image Image Image

Regards, Paul<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Paul Graupp on 28 August 2002 at 05:21 PM.]</p></FONT><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Paul Graupp on 28 August 2002 at 05:23 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 4:38 pm
by Fred Jack
Paul, that old benzedrine inhaler was good too! regards, fred

Posted: 30 Aug 2002 2:41 pm
by Gary Walker
I use the profex ll settings in addition to using the dobro pickup from Zumsteel in front of my stock pickup.

Posted: 31 Aug 2002 9:39 am
by Bobby Lee
Two things to remember:

Take your foot off the volume pedal.

Pick harder.

No effect in the world will make you sound like a dobro if you're picking light and pumping the volume pedal.

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Posted: 3 Sep 2002 11:46 am
by David Mason
You can get a reasonable facsimile of a slide b@njo using a piece of PVC pipe. If yoe want to get really deranged, run it through some chorus, reverb and distortion and make like Godzilla.

Posted: 8 Sep 2002 5:06 pm
by Bob Hayes
Quensey,
I basicly use the same thing..except from a different appliance. I was "sitting" in my "thinking Room" one day... and I saw my bathroom PLUNGER...with wood handel...And I said to my self...."That IS The Answer".so I hacked off about a 51/2" peice..and now it is with me whenever I pick..It gives a "Great" "5" Sting sound too. The picker with AJ at the OPRY last night used something .and it was a great Dobro Sound.His bar looked like one of those"Red Hot Bars".
GV