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How many picks do you guys use?

Posted: 21 Aug 2002 10:38 pm
by Dante Parel
What fingers do you wear picks on? I just started and right now I'm only using thumb,index and middle. Does anyone wear a pick on the ring finger also?

Posted: 21 Aug 2002 10:43 pm
by Jim Phelps
Buzz Evans does.

Posted: 21 Aug 2002 10:48 pm
by Dante Parel
I saw some tab that required picking 4 separate strings. Would you just use your finger?

Posted: 22 Aug 2002 2:12 am
by Tony Prior
Hi Dante, in the words of Buddy..I have some records of Buddy's where I swear he was using 4 picks..But in his "Ask Buddy" page on Ernie's website I asked him about it he said he has always just used a thumb and two finger picks..If 3 's good enough for Buddy well....
I personally use only a thumb and 2 fingers ( nationals) on the steel.

tp

Posted: 22 Aug 2002 2:32 am
by Sidney Malone
I use a thumb and 3 finger picks. It's nice to have the extra one for those big chords and it would be a good time to start since your a new player. There are quite a few players who wear four picks but I think the vast majority wears three.

Posted: 22 Aug 2002 3:04 am
by SveinungL
Do what feels good for you. I play with 4 pics, and I use the ringfinger a lot, but it's a matter of taste.

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Posted: 22 Aug 2002 3:23 am
by nick allen
There have been a number of previous discussions on this subject (see the "search" function above)... I do recall that in one of them Paul Franklin said if he was starting again from scratch, he would definitely learn with thumb and three fingers...
Nick

Posted: 22 Aug 2002 8:12 am
by Ron Randall
I have been playing about a year now and taking lessons from Reece Anderson. Best teacher and greatest player.
Reece started me out with 3 finger picks and a thumb pick. It is worth the effort to learn how.



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Posted: 22 Aug 2002 9:07 am
by Doug Seymour
Right on Ron!

Posted: 22 Aug 2002 11:06 am
by Bobby Lee
I've always used 4 picks.

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Posted: 22 Aug 2002 11:31 am
by chas smith
Usually 4, Bovine used to play with 5.

Posted: 22 Aug 2002 3:47 pm
by Joe Miraglia
Started with 4,had too. Played the Alkire (E-Harp) tuning. Now most of the time 3 picks,on E9th. Sometimes 4 picks on the 6th. Learn 4 , when you get older you can start taking them off. You know ARTHRITIS Image Joe

Posted: 22 Aug 2002 4:04 pm
by Bobbe Seymour
Doesn't matter how many picks you use, I have used 4 for my entire playing life, now I use one (thumb) and play more than I ever have. It's not the picks, it's what you do with your fingers, really. Randy Beavers sounds incredible with none, and I mean, truly incredible, judged on any standard.
However, Maurice is correct in my opinion, if you are going to wear any finger picks at all, wear three. (not on your ring finger,that's the hand you hold the bar with). When it comes to playing steel guitar, listen to Maurice, anything else, listen to me. Please try to understand my weird humor,

Bobbe

Posted: 22 Aug 2002 5:09 pm
by Donny Hinson
Dante, most players can cover more that 3 strings...even though they're only wearing 2 finger picks. The technique is called "sweeping", and it's done by most all pro players. You pick the top string(s) of the chord with your finger pick(s), while at the same time quickly "sweeping" (or strumming) the lower strings that are desired with your thumb pick. Done properly, with good blocking technique, it sounds like you're picking all the strings together (as a chord). Of course, it doesn't work real well on "expanded" chords...that's where you're skipping certain strings.

If you can learn to use and control 3 or 4 finger picks, so much the better. But it's <u>not</u> a necessity.

Posted: 23 Aug 2002 4:46 pm
by Bobbe Seymour
Donny, quit trying to make sense! You'll end up doing it if you aren't carful.

Prof, J. Hubbard Telleskope

Posted: 24 Aug 2002 11:20 am
by Dr. Hugh Jeffreys
To Dante: Now's a great time to get started on the "right foot" (pardon bad joke)---I've used No fingerpicks for over 20 years and use all 5 fingers when playing. Speed is improved vastly, and you can spread your fingers wide to get piano chords: I-V-III-VII-III (major 7th for example). The proof's in the puddn' - www.steelguitarbyhughjeffreys.com Do yourself a favor at the start and forget about fingerpicks; a stiff thumbpick is all you need. Best, HJ

Posted: 27 Aug 2002 12:35 pm
by Donny Hinson
No offense, Doctor, but "different strokes for different folks"...I'll keep using my finger picks. Image

(I'd rather sound like Buddy than Harpo!)

Posted: 27 Aug 2002 1:03 pm
by Michael Holland
<SMALL>Do yourself a favor at the start and forget about fingerpicks</SMALL>
Dante, this is foolish advice. The overwhelming majority of steel players use a plastic thumbpick and metal fingerpicks (you choose a number). The trademark sound of the Nashville style is achieved with metal fingerpicks. I hope the Doc doesn't throw out the standards of practice in favor of "I'll just do it my way"!

Yes, Bobbe plays with no fingerpicks, but doesn't advise beginners to do so. Of course, he could use salad tongs and play better than most of us.

Posted: 27 Aug 2002 1:24 pm
by Jim Cohen
I'm just starting to practice with a third fingerpick. It would be pretty weird, wouldn't it, if your piano teacher told you not to bother learning to use a couple of your fingers on piano. Oh, some people could play great piano with 6 or 8 fingers, but ya can't help but believe that more can be accomplished... by the same player... using more fingers.

Posted: 27 Aug 2002 1:46 pm
by Jon Light
The only negative I've experienced with three finger picks--and it has several times had me agonizing over my decision--is how it interferes with other uses for the ring finger--especially harmonics. That finger curls so much more nicely available than the pinky. But I continue to live with my choice.

Posted: 27 Aug 2002 2:39 pm
by Dr. Hugh Jeffreys
For M. Holland: Have fun with the overwhelming majority (I never did!) If the Nashville sound is your bag, you have lots of company; Local 257 only has 150+ steel players and growing every month. - HJ

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 4:49 am
by Dr. Hugh Jeffreys
A Nashville record producer told me last month that he is looking for "new blood steel players." He added, however, that the one he auditioned yesterday sounded just like the one who came in the day before: same tone; same slurs, even the same songs! And so it goes. There seems to be a message there somewhere. -- HJ

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 11:14 am
by Dennis Boyd
I use 4 picks (thumb + 3). I've always preferred playing complete 7th chords when needed. Spacing out the voicing of the notes requires at least 4 picks, especially on the E9th neck.

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 11:47 am
by Dr. Hugh Jeffreys
To D. Boyd: You're right on pal; that's the idea! --- HJ

Posted: 28 Aug 2002 12:03 pm
by Al Marcus
Reece had me put on that third pick in 1968 and been using 3 picks and thumb pick ever since.

It does expand the selections of chords, quite a bit.....al Image Image