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Magic Lick ???

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I hope I have this thread in the right topic area....
I had a fella come up to me after a show last week & ask me if I remember somthing called ,,,the magic or wonder or somthing lick. He said it was an old standard lick used by many steel players years ago as a lick to go to when all else failed??
Anyone know what he was talking about????



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Maybe "The Amazing One Pedal, Two Finger, Three String Lick"? Image
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Jeff Newman refers to an O.B.A.I.L. scale in his C6 instruction.

It serves the purpose you describe.

Who knows what O.B.A.I.L. stands for??
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O.B.A.I.L. = Oh Boy Am I Lost

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"Oh-Boy-Am-I-Lost"
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They were referring to the one pedal, two finger, three sting lick. I believe it was on a course by Jimmy Crawford. It is also taught on the Bruce Boughton video.

I doubt they were referring to the Newman lick, as tht is a C6 picking pattern. OBAIL stands for "Oh Boy Am I Lost"!

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Not Jimmie C
Weldon and Hal Rugg developed what may have been the original speedpicking concept -- when they were having to back up a wide variety of acts on the Opry -- and published it under the name Jim Smith mentioned. I believe that Scotty and/or Tom Bradshaw still sell the tab/cassette. It qualifies as an OBAIL pattern as well. They use a dozen or so chord progressions and demonstrate how the lick can fit over most any pattern for the typical chords in any key. Not a gig has gone by (or hardly a set) in the past 25 years that I haven't used some variation of what I learned on that little mini-course. Worth its weight in gold. And, yes, Bruce Bouton has also gotten a lot of mileage out of it. Listen to the solo on "Highway 40 Blues". Great stuff. Image

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ooops...! yep you are right Larry. My old timers disease is kicking in Image

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John wins the OBAIL prize.
Since he has everything already, I'll just say, "Congrats!".

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This Hal-Weldon Lick they are talking about is a lifesaver. I have got my money out of this one! If I could recommend any lick to learn it would be this one. It fits anywhere, sounds technically cool, and once you master it you can break it up to work in any situation. I've never heard it called a magic lick before but that name fits.
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Now that it's been determined which lick it is, can someone tab it or tell us where we can hear it. Apparently I already know the lick if it's on Hwy 40 Blues but I'm not sure which one it is.

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I'm at work, but I'm pretty sure the tab I have has "Emmons School of Pedal Steel Guitar" on it. You might check with the Emmons Company to get your copy. If I remember right, it came with a 45 RPM record, but I've probably misplaced mine.
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It is sold by Scotty
Item #WMHR01 $12.00

I have given students bits 'n' pieces but wouldn't give away the entire lick without them buying it from the original publisher. It's only 8 measures long but it IS MAGIC. (and WELL worth the 12 bucks)

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It's called
"The Amazing Speed Picking Course".

Larry's stock number is correct.
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Awe comm-on Larry You can trust us for 12$ Image
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Larry,
Could you give me Scotty's phone# or address
i would like to order this.


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I agree with Larry and others... it IS a golden riff! I bought the little 45 rpm record and tab 25 years ago when it was called "The Amazing One Pedal, Two Finger, Three String Lick" and I think I've used the riff in some form on almost every gig I've played since then.

That riff is the basis for Weldon's tune HOT FOOT which is tabbed out in Mel Bay's Anthology of Pedal Steel Guitar. It's an extended major scale speed pattern running down the entire fretboard. <font size=2>(if you start it 3 frets higher it's a minor run...)</font> oops, I'm giving away too much, sorry! Image If you like E9 speedpicking order this item from Scotty. It will be the best $12 you ever spend.


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Well after pulling my hair out & going through a ton of old material, I found the magic lick in some old tab material I have. Very simple to play and most usefull & yes worth 12$ Image
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Check out Weldon's break on Tommy Overstreet's recording of,"If Love Was A Bottle Of Wine",on Dot Records. It took me 3 days to learn it,& THEN,the first time I played it on stage,I BLEW IT. Talk about embarrassed.....! Image But,I got it now. Image

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Post by Robert Todd »

fellows the lick is very easy

It involves strings 5 6 and 7 and the pedal is the B pedal that raises the G# to A

The bar is used to emulate a pedal as well

In the key of G
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
5-X-----X-----X--------X-------X----------X
6-X-----X(b)--b--------X-------X(b)-------b
7-X-----X-----X--------X-------X----------X

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An example of the bar slide to simulate the A pedal would be

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3 3 2 1 1

5 X--------------------
6 ----X~~~~~~~~~~~X----
7 ---------------------X
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If played rapidly this should sound like rocking off the A pedal at the 10th fret

No I didn't buy the course, but I thiink this is what they're talking about.

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Post by Chris Forbes »

Thanks for the tab, I'm going to see if I have enough time tonight to try it out. This is the first I've ever heard of it, although I suspect I've heard it before and just didn't know it was referred to as the "magic lick."
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Post by Robert Todd »

Chris I'm not sure what the "magic lick" is but there a thousands of G major scale licks in those positions above. try it over an uoptempo number like rocky top
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Post by Frank Parish »

Doug had it right.
It starts at the 15th fret and ends at the 1rst fret. I couldn't make sense of the tab but what do I know? Try that same lick on the back neck now and see where it ends up! I still use this lick all the time and wish there were more. It was on a 45 rpm record and some one page tab.
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I bought this course in 1975, or so and it opened up the world to me. I use it every night in one form or another. One side of the record was Hal or Weldon playing with the rhythm track and the other was just the rhythm track. THE BEST EVER!!!!!!!!!
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