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Help with a LDG

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 10:54 am
by Matt Downs
Howdy folks, My name is Matt and I wanted to introduce myself. I've wanted to learn PSG for a while now and finally picked up a rig. It's a LDG and in an hour I had it setup and playing some basic chord changes and licks. In my opinion It's playable the way it is but the previous owner modded it. Right now it's a 2+1. The missing pedal concerns me because most all the parts are missing that go with it (cross shaft and bell cranks). Any way I wanted to see what you thought about a new player learning with it setup this way. Will it hinder me further down the road. I've seen precious few parts for the Sho-Buds.
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My opinion

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 11:07 am
by Ken Campbell
It needs to be 3x4 in my opinion and James Morehead will have the parts you need to get her up to snuff.

Nice ax!

Kc

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 1:29 pm
by Lee Dassow
Wonder what the previous owner did with the old
parts? Looks like it was 3x4 at one time. Welcome
to the forum matt. Tennessee Lee

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 5:32 pm
by Edward Rhea
Nice looking LDG Matt! James is THE MAN! Shoot him an email shobud@windstream.net he has so much knowledge and a real gift for making these steels players again! He can get you "cookin"!

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 5:38 pm
by Chris Lucker
I won't try to get too technical with the names of parts, but I can give you a pedal, a cross shaft, the cross shaft apron hanger and the other L bracket, the two bellcranks, the pedal rod and rod end. Actually, I have a ton of bellcranks.

Are those the extra parts in the case? It looks like extra rods in the leg compartment.

I may have the complete knees for the guitar too. I know I have knees for earlier guitars, but maybe not yours.

Somewhere in the Google Machine there is an image of the old Sho-Bud parts catalogue which will help you figure out what is missing and allow you to communicate with others

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 6:31 pm
by Herb Steiner
Morehead or Lucker can fix you up with parts.

Reminds me of something off-topic. What's up with Two-Pedal Terry Wendt? Hasn't been around here lately. It's been about a year since he's posted.

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 8:00 pm
by Matt Downs
Thanks everybody for the encouraging responses. Yes Chris that is a bundle of extra rods in the leg compartment. The guy that owned it definitely liked to tinker. Everything I saw that the gentleman owned was modified heavily. Unfortunately he past away and left his son with a whole bunch of half finished projects that the son is selling because he is no spring chicken either. So what the owners vision with this 2+1 setup was I will never know. I'll look for that parts break down so I know exactly what parts I'm looking for.

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 9:12 pm
by Chris Lucker
Did his wife look like she was twenty?

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 9:17 pm
by Matt Downs
I didn't meet his wife. She was out of town. Sounds like you might have an interesting story up your sleeve though.

Posted: 19 Feb 2014 9:31 pm
by Matt Downs
I'm having difficulty finding that parts break down. Anybody have a link to it?

Posted: 19 Feb 2014 11:30 pm
by Chris Lucker
I cannot find what I referenced, either. When I get home from the desert I will scan my copy and post it. If I forget, email me to post it.

Posted: 20 Feb 2014 7:27 am
by Henry Matthews
It still never ceases to amaze me that people butcher beautiful guitars. What good would it do to take a pedal off?
Matt, once you get guitar upgraded to way should have been, will be a great axe.

Posted: 20 Feb 2014 7:36 am
by Finbarr O'Sullivan
Hi Matt is there part of the neck missing also nice guitar what a shame.

Posted: 20 Feb 2014 8:43 am
by John Billings
"It still never ceases to amaze me that people butcher beautiful guitars. What good would it do to take a pedal off? "

Looks to me like the guy might started playing "way back when." Remember that Don Warden's first Shobud only had two pedals.

Posted: 20 Feb 2014 12:32 pm
by Matt Downs
Yes the neck is cut out some. It looks like he had a pickup mounted in that spot at one time. You're right about a player from way back too. I saw some old posters an stuff from the 30's or 40's showing him playing lap steel.

Sho-Bud Parts Catalog Scan

Posted: 24 Feb 2014 2:51 pm
by Chris Lucker
Here is the scan I promised the other day. The photos are dark in the original catalog.

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Posted: 24 Feb 2014 2:58 pm
by John Billings
Chris!
Very cool!
JB

Posted: 24 Feb 2014 3:16 pm
by Chris Lucker
Perhaps someone ought to make that a sticky somewhere?

I gave it a header so someone could find it in a search. Maybe that is good enough?

Posted: 24 Feb 2014 4:57 pm
by Chris Boyd
What a great bunch of helpful guys on this site... it makes my heart feel good to be a member..

Posted: 24 Feb 2014 6:10 pm
by Matt Downs
Thanks Chris. I'll make a list of what I need and send it to you. I really appreciate it.

Thank you

Posted: 24 Feb 2014 7:53 pm
by Tom Wolverton
Thanks for the catalog post, Chris. Very helpful to see the correct names for all these parts.