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Jimmy Day's tone

Posted: 7 Jul 2002 10:02 pm
by Brad Sarno
Can anyone comment on how Jimmy Day picked his strings. I'm not interested in the guitar or the amp but how he picked and where he picked. It sounds to me like there's a place on the neck that he often picked from that wasn't near the bridge, but further left, but not too far left. It's like a vocal or a vowel kind of sound he coaxed out of the strings. It's so distinctly him when you hear it. How'd he do that?

Anyone??


Brad Sarno
St. Louis, MO

Posted: 7 Jul 2002 10:12 pm
by Gene H. Brown
Hi Brad,
By the way thanks for answering my thread, I appeciated your input.
I believe, if I am not wrong, just from my experience playing in the same era as Jimmy, that back when most of his material was recorded, that the Amplifiers of that time did not have a Mid Range on them, at least I don't remember mine having one. So when you take the mid range out of a sound, it sheds a completely different light on the sound, and I knew Jimmy Day and watched him play a few times, and he played, position wise, about 2 to 3 inches to the left of the bridge in what most of us call the sweet spot. If you pick too close to the bridge , the sound gets harse, too far to the left of the bridge and it gets too many overtones. Hope this helps a little.


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Posted: 8 Jul 2002 6:32 am
by Larry Bell
Brad,
Whether you want to hear it or not Image part of it is the voice of a Sho-Bud. Jimmy epitomized the Sho-Bud sound.

Those lovely old push-pulls of yours sing with a different timbre. You may come close, but the Bud has a more mellow, wooden tone. Excellent advice from Gene.

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Posted: 8 Jul 2002 8:47 pm
by Jody Sanders
One thing that contributed to Jimmy's tone is that he did not use any effects except for the reverb on the amp.Jody.

Posted: 8 Jul 2002 11:46 pm
by Mike Cass
& a hell of a set of hands & ears Image

Posted: 9 Jul 2002 2:48 am
by Ron Whitworth
AMEN Mike; 'nuff said!!!!!!!...Ron

Posted: 11 Jul 2002 10:21 am
by Susan Alcorn
Beautiful tone, Jimmy Day. Obviously his right hand was important. A lot of dynamics. Some people play hard all the time, some play soft. When Jimmy played a jazzy tune he picked with more force and really honked, but when he played a ballad, he touched the strings very lightly especially at certain parts. I remember seeing him once and couldn't believe that what he was playing came from the steel guitar and not twin fiddles.
Also just as important and unique to his tone was the way he used the volume pedal.

-- Susan

Posted: 11 Jul 2002 7:30 pm
by Lem Smith
According to a tip in an email from Bobbe Seymour, the best tone comes from picking halfway between the bar and the changer fingers. Perhaps this is where Jimmy found the tone you are referring to???

In regards to the Sho~Bud being an inportant part of Jimmy's tone...I am more familiar with his playing when it was on a Sho~Bud. Was his tone very similar after he switched to a Mullen? I haven't heard much of Jimmy's playing on the Mullen.

Lem

Posted: 12 Jul 2002 5:57 pm
by Frank Parish
Somebody correct if I'm wrong but when I seen Jimmy play he had a right hand technique that from where I stood looked a lot like Buddy Emmons. At least the little finger was over the strings and about average distance from the bridge say maybe picking at the 12th fret. Excellent touch and a master of the volume pedal.