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Hi to all,
Was wondering if someone could help me on this topic please. Does anyone know what the Stock Sho-Bud LDG pickups are wound at? Was considering changing from a Bill Lawrence 910 thats wound at 20k I beleive, would sure appreciate some help on this and thanks in advance.


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If You Keep Pickin That Thing, It'll Never Heal!

Sorry I can't help you with Sho-Bud's winding, but I do know that Bill Lawrence will tell you it doesn't matter, and the amount of winding means nothing!

"but I do know that Bill Lawrence will tell you it doesn't matter, and the amount of winding means nothing!"

And from what I hear, he'll go into great detail when he tells you about it!

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Lee, from South Texas

Hi Jim,
Thanks for your answer, but I can't help believing that the winding does matter. I read a quote from Buddy Emmons saying he preferred his pickups wound at 16.5k or 17k and that was the only way he could get his lows and highs to come out somewhat the same across the neck. I do know that 16.5 and 17 give you a much crisper sound than, say a 20k, it just makes sense that the heavier the pickup is wound the thicker the sound. But I do appreciate your reply and I will take that into consideration, but I still would really like to know what the sh0-bud stock pickup is wound at? Thanks

I've got a LDG pickup from the early '80s and it's wound to 22.2kOhm.


Brad Sarno
'69 Emmons D-10/'66 Emmons S-10/'69 twin

Right. Comparing the DC resistance of a Sho-Bud pickup with the DC resistance of a Lawrence is really a meaningless measurement, due to the differences in construction.

The quote attributed to Buddy was probably in regards to Emmons pickups. As soon as you change the magnets, wire gauge or winding method, all knowledge about the "sound" of a particular DC resistance value goes out the window.

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To all who replied to my thread, I have found the answer. Lloyd Green sent me an e-mail today and set me strait on this issue. He informed me that the LDG stock pickups were wound at between 17.5 and 18k and that this is what he used to use. He now uses a BL710, because it is a humbucker and does not have any hum which he does not want when he records. So hope this might help anyone else out there who uses an LDG.

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If You Keep Pickin That Thing, It'll Never Heal!

It's true that DC resistance of a pickup wont tell you everything about it because there are many factors including magnet strength/material, wire guage/type, style of winding, etc. BUT, I think the reason that these figures are helpful is because when comparing pickups of the same make/model like an Emmons single coil or a Sho-bud single coil, the DC resistance will indicate some common traits. Higher DC resistance means more winds, more winds means higher voltage output, also means the tone will tend toward midranginess and thickness. Lower DC resistance tends to reduce the mids and sweeten up the top end a bit. So if someone has a pickup for sale and you wonder what it sounds like, and you are already familiar with that general type of pickup, then the DC resistance figure should help give you a pretty good idea of that particular pickup's tone.

If you wind a pickup to 15kOhms, listen to it, and then wind it on up to 20kOhms, the tone difference will be obvious.

Brad Sarno
St. Louis, MO

BL-710's sound great in an LDG.

Yes, the DC resistance figures are useful when comparing pickups of the same design.

That's pretty funny......comparing ShoBud pickups electronically. I've never heard two that sounded the same. Usually, they are separating(top and bottom plate), there're so many shorts in the winds, and when they were made, the quality control was non-exsistent. The only real way to compare those old pickups is how far you can throw them...'course this is just my opinion...'otta be yours.