Need some backing help
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Rick Holden
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Need some backing help
Still a newbie after a year and a half. A music non-therorist. What I have learned is from here on the Forum and related utubes. Been playing backup in small country band and it finally clicks I do not need to play chord for chord with the guitars! Here is where I need help... Take a simple 1-4-5 song , say in G (see I am learning). So in a transition from the 1 to a 4 what can I do to fill other than simply going strait from G to C? I am sure there are patterns I have not figured out yet that will apply to any key or chord change both up and back. For now I want to concentrate on backing. I have been able to play some leads. Thanks for any thoughts.
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James Quillian
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This is my take on playing backup. Live is different than studio. Live, sometimes it sounds good to add light chords behind a singer but when in doubt lay out. Never walk on the voice.
Other than that, imo, the most fail safe way of playing back up is to start a phraze on the beat that corresponds to the start of the last word of a vocal phraze and carry it for two bars.
Memororize a few songs this way and then use the licks on other songs.
Dewitts Scott's Pedal Steel Backup book w/mp3s is extrordianary in teaching this concept.
Dick Meis has a course on backup that covers the same thing. I like this one two. Dick's course is good for playing live, in that the steel is often active behind the voice.
One thing I definately believe is that most steel players throw in too much stuff and actually make the song sound worse. What I liked about Jimmy Day and a lot of the others is that they never ever play a lick that doesn't belong.
Other than that, imo, the most fail safe way of playing back up is to start a phraze on the beat that corresponds to the start of the last word of a vocal phraze and carry it for two bars.
Memororize a few songs this way and then use the licks on other songs.
Dewitts Scott's Pedal Steel Backup book w/mp3s is extrordianary in teaching this concept.
Dick Meis has a course on backup that covers the same thing. I like this one two. Dick's course is good for playing live, in that the steel is often active behind the voice.
One thing I definately believe is that most steel players throw in too much stuff and actually make the song sound worse. What I liked about Jimmy Day and a lot of the others is that they never ever play a lick that doesn't belong.
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james sluder
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Chords to play going from 1 --4 chord.
Rick i saw your post thing's to play from the 1 [G] 3rd fret to [c] 3rd fret adding A & B Pedel's. Well you can use 2 minor & 3 minor to 4 [ c ] chord,,a nice walkup. so u have 1234 then the 5 and back to the 1 {G }.
Paul Sutherland has a nice u-tube vidio [ intro to minors ] that a wealth of things. on the vidio at around 10.02 you can find these chord's to use.
I hope this help's !
Jim.
Paul Sutherland has a nice u-tube vidio [ intro to minors ] that a wealth of things. on the vidio at around 10.02 you can find these chord's to use.
I hope this help's !
Jim.