The Steel Guitar Forum

Hi,
This may sound like a stupid question but what's the difference between a Emmons Lashley Legrande and Legrande II? I've been out of playing for about 3 years. I pulled my steel out the other day because I couldn't remember if I had a legrande or Legrande II. Doh!!

Shawn

Legrande III has the "anti-detuning" mod.

Legrande II does not.

Otherwise they are identical.

This mod is to counteract so-called "Cabinet drop" problem that plagues a lot of players. And I might add it does an outstanding job of it also. The cost is around $300 per neck.

carl

Ok, even dumber question. Where do I find the serial number?

Isn't the LeGrande the "original" LeGrande, before the II and III?

One thing to keep in mind.Not all Lashley Legrandes had 14 hole bell cranks.There were two Lashley Legrands sold here last year that had the 4 hole bellcranks.Carl, I think you stated some time back that your Lashley Legrande came from the factory with 4 hole cranks?

The 4 hole bellcranks work fine if you use a standard set-up.And most folks do.However the 14 hole LL's bring more money.Especially if you're trying to sell to me.

Jim it was the Legrande,Lashley Legrande,Legrande II and then the LIII.I hear they have a LIV?But can't say fer sure.

The Legrande's serial number should be found on a metal casting (part of the end plate), underneath and very near the changer fingers.

Yes Bobby, My LeGrande (which had a decal that said Lahsley LeGrande) came with 4 hole bellcranks. In fact it would NOT have come with 4 had it not been for me. Let met tell you the story.

When I ordered my guitar, they had just begun using the 14 hole bellcranks. A very dear dear friend of mine talked me out of the 14 holers in lieu of the 4 hole ones. Like a dummy I did what he said and much to the consternation of Jack Strayhorn I insisted on the 4 hole cranks.

Shortly After I received the guitar I realized what a terrible mistake I had made. I then called Jack and humbled myself and admitted what I had done and I had not taken his wise advice. Thru the graciousness of Jack, they sent me 50, 14 holers at their cost. Still expensive but it was MY fault. So I was happy then.

Interestinly, within months, I sold ALL the 4 hole ones and so I came out even. Thank God.

Moral: friends are friends and we love them. BUT that "don make em right!

carl

I believe the original Legrande used the round brass ball crank connectors similar to the Sho-Buds. At least that's what mine had. They were just called Legrandes, not Lashley Legrandes. It also had a short key head. The rods went thru a hole in the brass connector and tightned down with a set screw. The first Lashley Legrandes were supposed to have the 4 hole bell cranks. I haven't seen one,The ones I have seen all have had the 14 hole bell cranks, but that is what I've been told. The ones I have seen also used different tuning keys. They were haystack shaped as opposed to a curved top and bottom or butterfly type. I have a Legrande 11 and it has 14 hole bell cranks and the rods are connected to the bell cranks by a 90 degree bend in the tip and retained by an (e-clip). The Legrande 111 is the same except it has compensators. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Fred Murphy on 30 May 2002 at 07:33 AM.]</p></FONT><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Fred Murphy on 30 May 2002 at 07:36 AM.]</p></FONT>