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New original ballad, If You Say So, w/Clinesmith D-10

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 4:30 am
by Mike Neer
I wrote and recorded this demo over the last few days and I'm really happy with the tune itself, not necessarily the recording. But it does provide an opportunity for me to use the new Clinesmith in the way that I've been dreaming of for the last few years, particularly in the chord playing track. The sustain is almost organ-like to me--it's just beautiful.

On this track, I played a Kay upright bass, steel, and tried to make a useable drum track with my loop library. Steel was played through a Roland Cube 30X, no effects and miked with an SM-57.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy it. This is the first tune I've written with the intention of recording a CD of all instrumental music.

If You Say So

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 6:10 am
by Tony Lombardo
That's so beautiful! It sounds like my favorite (I.e. The jazziest) Steely Dan tracks.

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 6:24 am
by Rob Anderlik
I like it! Very atmospheric. In a good way. The recording quality sounds pretty good to me, BTW. Very cool Mike!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 7:20 am
by Bill Hatcher
nice! love the chords sliding down.

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 7:27 am
by Ulrich Sinn
really good tune, congratulations!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 7:35 am
by Andy Volk
Excellent, Mike. Love the low register harmonies which bring to mind, of all people, Alvino Rey - if he'd recorded for BlueNote.

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 8:55 am
by Doug Beaumier
Really nice, Mike. It's interesting how we all hear different things in an original tune. Like others have said, Steely Dan, Alvino Rey. My first thought was Miles Davis! It's all good.

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 9:21 am
by Jay Fagerlie
Sounds great Mike- when does the CD come out?

(My preference would be on LP)

:D

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 9:36 am
by Brandin
Love it!!

GB

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 10:47 am
by Brad Bechtel
Nice job, Mike. I like where you're going.

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 11:34 am
by James Nottage
Very tasty, Mike. I can't wait to hear more.

James

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 11:36 am
by Andy Volk

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 11:53 am
by Mike Neer
Thanks for all the nice words.

Andy, I can honestly say I've never really spent any time listening to Alvino's music. I had one recording once, but the sound quality was very shrill, so I didn't listen to it.

I think some of the influences which come out the most in me are Bill Frisell, Allan Holdsworth, Scofield, etc.--musicians I listened to a ton before I played steel guitar. I am trying to make music that reaches that level, without screaming "hey, I'm a steel guitar." I would like it if people dug it and didn't really notice anything strange about the instrument--it's just our little secret! If there's one steel guitarist who influences me, it's Susan Alcorn. She's taught me how to really take my time and let things unfold.

Remember the experiment of 2 necks of my D-10 being tuned one for improv and one for chordal work? Well, I've abandoned that and now I am hopping between both necks for chords and melodies.

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 12:29 pm
by Peter Graham
You should be teaching a class at Berklee.....keep pushing it Mike, someone's got to!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 1:37 pm
by Eric Dunst
Really outstanding Mike! Great tone and feel!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 4:12 pm
by Rick Barnhart
I absolutely love the tone youre getting out of that Clinesmith.

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 5:45 pm
by Andy Volk
Mike, I can definitely hear those influences you mention. My comment refers more to me than you. I never much liked anything Rey played except that record above which is really an easy listening masterpiece.

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 6:33 pm
by Mike Neer
Andy, and everyone, I'm glad that you found something interesting or even enticing in the song. I have listened to it at least 20 times today, and while I was bugged a little bit by the melody, particularly the line when I resolve to the major 3rd of the I chord (which was previously minor), I've grown to really like it. In my head I thought that that was laziest line I'd ever heard and just a cheap way out. :) Now, I hear the little thing that makes me smile when I listen to Jeff Beck. :)

The bridge is also reminiscent of so much music I'm listening to and have been drawn to--that with odd meters or superimposed rhythms. It's really so simple but the music kind takes flight. The only I did there was sing (I also sing it first) what sounds like 6 against 4 (it is 2 half-note triplets).

Anyway, thanks. I don't believe in pushing it forward, I just believe in being true to yourself as a musician. I don't think I've ever been happier as a musician, and I've been a musician for 40 years, with varying degrees of success.

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 6:37 pm
by Stephen Abruzzo
Very interesting tune Mike. The recording sounds fine. Nicely played.

Are you keeping the same tunings you described in another thread?

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 7:01 pm
by Former Member
I played this for my wife, Here's her exact quote:
"that doesn't sound like lap steel, it sounds nice"
:lol: Jeez, what must be her experience??? :cry:

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 7:02 pm
by Mike Neer
Stephen Abruzzo wrote:Are you keeping the same tunings you described in another thread?
Thanks for asking, but no. I couldn't stick with the separate improv and chord necks--looks good on paper, but not in action.

I couldn't have played the tune entirely without using 2 necks. Each neck has a similar tuning, but different enough to make certain chords available. For now, I'll keep it to myself.... :oops:

Posted: 30 Dec 2013 7:03 pm
by Mike Neer
Ron Ellison wrote:I played this for my wife, Here's her exact quote:
"that doesn't sound like lap steel, it sounds nice"
:lol: Jeez, what must be her experience??? :cry:
Ron, I played it for my wife an hour ago and she said, "You know I don't like instrumental music...." She really is not a fan!

Man, I hope Todd Clinesmith hears this! I want him to hear how nice his creation sounds! If it sounds this good with a cheap SS amp and a crappy SM-57 mic, you can imagine how good it sounds in the room through a nice amp.

Posted: 31 Dec 2013 5:46 am
by Tom Pettingill
Really a nice piece Mike 8)

Posted: 31 Dec 2013 10:37 am
by Ulrich Sinn
I couldn't have played the tune entirely without using 2 necks. Each neck has a similar tuning, but different enough to make certain chords available.
Was that what they invented the pedals for? :-)

Posted: 31 Dec 2013 5:14 pm
by Todd Clinesmith
Hi Mike,
I'd love to hear this new composition but my out dated computer is not smart enough for sound cloud . This will change soon as I have a "new to me computer" coming this February that should keep me up to date with this fast paced world for at least a few years.
Please send me an mp3.
I can't wait to hear it.
Todd