Sho~Bud Pro II Eb lever return sharp

KENNY KRUPNICK · Post by **KENNY KRUPNICK** » 22 Apr 2002 4:54 pm

A friend of mine here in town plays a sho-bud pro II, and he was telling me when he lowers his E's to Eb, and releases them,they come back sharp. Anyone know what the problem may be? Thanks.

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » 22 Apr 2002 5:39 pm

This get discussed here a lot. Do a search on hysterisis for the explanation.

Jeff Lampert · Post by **Jeff Lampert** » 22 Apr 2002 6:08 pm

Carl Dixon discusses it on the topic "Compensators",just a few topics up or down from here.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 22 Apr 2002 7:00 pm

Kenny, call me tomorrow and Ill explain this whole problem to you and give you the cure WITHOUT compensators. I was at Sho-Bud when this was a big problem during manufacturing and I can tell you what was done to cure it, permanently. This is a pretty easy thing to fix, and is a standard problem on a lot of guitars.It really just involves good maintanence.But not where you'd think. John Birkhead of MCI fame had a great cure also. Compensators are NOT the way to fix this problem if it is very bad. We do this to every guitar we sell and never have a problem. We garrentee.
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LARRY COLE · Post by **LARRY COLE** » 22 Apr 2002 7:01 pm

Sounds like the nut rollers might be binding.

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LC. WILLIAMS U12, SHO-BUD PRO1,CARVIN TL60

Jeff Peterson · Post by **Jeff Peterson** » 22 Apr 2002 7:23 pm

My nuts bind occasionally.....Bobbe beat me to it....this is not a big deal...hiisstearereiasisiss....or whatever, is not the problem. Coming up with new definitions of old, easily fixed 'problems' seems to be a new study these days. Over-diagnostics are really creating alot of new threads lately. Sadly, alot of the cures stated are opinion....many very inexperienced....not based on fact.
'Onward thru' the fog!'. 'Damn the Torpedoes'! 'Gimme 'an E'!!!

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 22 Apr 2002 9:28 pm

Jeff and Larry, Yep! You guys got it, NOW, what to do? Lets not hear any "Nut roller" jokes. Clean every thing and oil it (them). And I mean EVERY time you change strings. Heavy oil with a rust preventive in it.(motor oil) This is if the lowered string comes back sharp and when you raise it, comes back flat.The string is actually "over jumping" or sliding to far (snapping along)in the roller groove, it is sliding in instead of rolling. Sometimes a poorly oiled roller or one with a slight bind will also "over jump" and cause this same problem. A compensator can't do much about this deal.
Bob and Jeff, the steel guitar guys.
( Larry, need a job?)